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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    Michigan huh? My wife's from there - Bloomfield Hills.
    Now that I've had a chance to get back to the machine with the most complex of BIOSs . . .
    I understand what you are saying and it makes sense. From yesterday I have Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology currently disabled. As you suggested I set the CPU ratio back to Auto and sure enough the CPU Speed goes back down to 1200MHz. But I'm confused, I would think you would suggest enabling the EIST and setting CPU ratio to Auto. Which results in the same 1200 MHz CPU speed.
    If I keep EIST enabled, would the CPUs work hard when they need to and go into relax mode when I'm not using the computer? I'm thinking with such an high energy CPU that might be a good thing to have enabled. But I definitely want max performance when the time comes.
    So, I'm not sure how to tell if, after I get Windows up and running-and I leave the BIOS where it shows 1200MHz, if the CPU will 'wake up' and start performing at its designed 3.1GHz speed. Will I need a program like CPUZ I think it's called. I see a lot of benchmark video where people use this program which looks like a large dialogue box.

    Another question about the CPU ratio: I looked in that document you linked to with the processor specs. I couldn't fine anywhere where it lists the CPU ratio at 31 or at any speed.
    Also, if the max turbo boost is 38, why not set the BIOS CPU Ratio to 38? Does that results in premature CPU death? Does the CPU ramp up to 38 Ratio automatically?

    Thanks again.

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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    Quote Originally Posted by marchitect View Post
    But I'm confused, I would think you would suggest enabling the EIST and setting CPU ratio to Auto. Which results in the same 1200 MHz CPU speed.
    Sorry, I could have worded that better. I had too many Google pages open to put into words all that the grey matter was absorbing.

    Reset everything back and install Windows. The more I look into this the more I'm convinced 1.2Ghz would be a normal speed to see at idle with EIST Enabled and CPU Ratio at "Auto"

    With the programs I link to below you should be able to witness this speed ramp as a compute resources are demanded of the processors.

    Quote Originally Posted by marchitect View Post
    If I keep EIST enabled, would the CPUs work hard when they need to and go into relax mode when I'm not using the computer? I'm thinking with such an high energy CPU that might be a good thing to have enabled. But I definitely want max performance when the time comes. So, I'm not sure how to tell if, after I get Windows up and running-and I leave the BIOS where it shows 1200MHz, if the CPU will 'wake up' and start performing at its designed 3.1GHz speed.
    That is exactly how this works. Put a load against it and it will climb steadily, up to the Max Turbo of 3800(38x100=3.8Ghz). Then back at rest(idle) it lowers the clock(multi/Ratio) back to 12(12x100=1.2Ghz). Your Ratio has a span of between 12 to 38, with the bus being a constant (~)100. With the Ratio of 31 being it's "normal' operating Ratio, or 3.1Ghz(31x100)

    If you'll look back to THIS page, you'll see the Turbo speeds of 3400(Ratio=34), 3500(Ratio=35), 3600(Ratio=36), and 3800(Ratio=38). Those are all above the stated/spec'd 3100(31) of the CPU's "normal' non-EIST non-Turbo operating state of 3.1Ghz.

    With EIST enabled the CPU is allowed into a lower Ratio to conserve power/heat while idling. Then, the normal state of 3.1Ghz. Opposite that is Turbo where the ratios climb above 3.1Ghz, when a heavy load is placed against the CPU.

    The Ratios will ramp from an idle with EIST to Normal and then proceed to Turbo, then fall back again as the demands lessen.


    Quote Originally Posted by marchitect View Post
    Will I need a program like CPUZ I think it's called. I see a lot of benchmark video where people use this program which looks like a large dialogue box.
    There are quite a few programs that you can check the operating frequency. CPU-Z and HWiNFO64 are both popular.

    Quote Originally Posted by marchitect View Post
    Another question about the CPU ratio: I looked in that document you linked to with the processor specs. I couldn't fine anywhere where it lists the CPU ratio at 31 or at any speed.
    Also, if the max turbo boost is 38, why not set the BIOS CPU Ratio to 38? Does that results in premature CPU death? Does the CPU ramp up to 38 Ratio automatically?
    I hope I offered up a through explanation of this in my reply here above. If not, ask away.
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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    Great explanation.
    I just saw your post as, for some reason, I forgot there might be a 2nd page to this thread. Now that I see page 2, I see your great explanation.
    I hope I'm not asking for trouble, but I'm in the process of creating a USB bootable version of Win 7 Ultimate and using WinToolKit to remove the features I don't need or want. I then plan to put my User files on one drive and my Program files on another drive using this method [Tutorial] Moving Users and Program Files to another HDD on Windows 7. - YouTube. So, I still do not have Windows installed. But I'm much more confident that this whole 1.2GHz issue is solved.
    I will try the programs you suggested to verify that the processors are indeed ramping up to the higher speeds.
    With the CPU Ratio set to Auto, I don't know if I will ever see anything higher than 3.1GHz but we'll see.

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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    Quote Originally Posted by marchitect View Post
    With the CPU Ratio set to Auto, I don't know if I will ever see anything higher than 3.1GHz but we'll see.
    Yea, it'll take some serious doings to fire up 8/16 physical cores that's for sure.

    And here's a MS HotFix link for you pertaining to Windows Experience Index/WinSAT:
    WinSAT test fails in Windows 7


    Fingers crossed here. Keep the posts coming.
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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    My latest issue is trying to get Windows 7 64 Ultimate to install.
    I want the following installation set up using a custom install where you have to partition each drive. And allocate the drives as follows:
    Windows: installed on a Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD
    Program files: installed on a separate Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD
    User Files: installed on a Intel Raid Disk, consisting of 2 Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSDs. This is the raid controller on my MB. (This is key!, in order to have the Raid disk show up in the partition screen at the very beginning of the install, I need to install the Intel drivers. I do this and the Raid drive shows up and I think I'm in good shape. But later on, that driver somehow gets lost and Windows throws up a critical error. - see below.)
    I've down loaded the latest ISO from Microsoft using WinToolKit. Win Toolkit - WinCert.net Forums
    I've created a bootable USB disk using this link: Sean's Windows 7 Install & Optimization Guide for SSDs & HDDs
    I want to split up the drives using this technique: [Tutorial] Moving Users and Program Files to another HDD on Windows 7. - YouTube.

    All seems fine until I get try to install Windows. During installation, it goes up to the first reboot sequence. Reboots, and when it comes back online I immediately get the error: Windows failed to load because of a critical system file. File:\windows\system32\drivers\iastorA.sys

    This is a driver for my Intel Raid disk. I don't know how to get past this. Why is the Raid disk driver loading initially but then appears to get lost? I'm not aware of any way to reinstall it after I get that critical system error.
    Do you have any experience with this?

    I'm wondering if I would have this same problem if I was installing from a dvd. I don't have one at the moment (the dvd player or a win 7 ultimate disk).

    I'm wondering if there is a way to set up a skype deal where you or someone really good at this stuff could look at my screen remotely and tell me what to do. This is getting way over my head, but on the other hand, I have so much time and energy invested into this project, I want to see it through.

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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    One idea that came to me at this crazy 3:30AM hour is:
    Can I install drivers from a command prompt? I can get to a command prompt, I don't know how to install drivers or anything from that matter as I'm not literate in DOS text.
    But I think that could work.
    I would load up windows with the raid drivers and hope they stick.

    I'm also thinking, there must be an easier way.

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    First up, if I'm reading that correctly, you don't need/want the F6 RAID drivers for only installing to the "Windows 840 Pro 256" as it is a single non-raid drive. That's probably some of your issues right there.

    I'm not a fan of RAID, so this is theory, not experience here.

    1. With only the "Windows 840 Pro 256" drive' connected install Windows as normal. Two ways I suppose. Either disable RAID and install normally, or enable RAID(but no RAID drives connected) and F6 the driver
    2. After Windows is installed, connect the "Program Files drive" and make sure it's seen in Windows and all is good with it.
    3. Now connect the two User Files drives' and configure the controller and them as RAID in the BIOS. Here I'll get loose as I've never done this. Read it, but not done. Once Windows reboots with these two properly config'd in the BIOS it(Windows) will ask for the correct drivers. Again, I'm not sure, but the RST Util in Windows can set up the RAID drives too.

    4. Once you know the system is as you want it, now would be the time to migrate the User and System files.
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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    You will need to F6 the AHCI drivers in unless you want to use the in-the-box MS AHCI drivers for the Windows disk install.
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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    Brain dead this am.

    Set the controller to AHCI where the "Windows' drive is connected and F6 the AHCI drivers.

    Duh. /me bad
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    Default Re: Asus P9 PE-D8 WS - Bios changes CPU speed - Watch video !

    Sorry there in the above posts.

    I sometimes type out and forget that things I take for granted on installs is also understood by the party I'm typing to.

    1. Set the controller the Windows drive is on to AHCI in the BIOS and when installing F6 the AHCI driver in. This is with no other drives connected, only this one.
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