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    Default Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    Wondering why the QVL list for this board doesn't have any 2x8gb (1600MHz) GSkill Ripjaws(x) or Vengeance RAMS listed. Is this normal? Are they focusing more on the Z87 boards? I was anticipating moving to 32Gb later, so I wanted to start with 16Gb (2x8gb).

    Anyone know if these will work: F3-1600C9D-16GXM or CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9?

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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    The G.Skill ram configurator shows that the F3-1600C9D-16GXM memory kit is compatible with your motherboard.
    This kit is listed near the bottom of their webpage: G.SKILL RAM Configurator: Asus H87m-pro

    Check the Corsair memory site to see which memory kits they recommend for your motherboard.

    For maximum compatibility, it's best to buy a single 4 x 8GB memory kit instead of buying two 2 x 8GB memory kits.
    From the G.Skill memory FAQ:
    Q: I want to install more memory, in addition to my existing memory kit. What are my options?

    A: We do not recommend mixing memory kits, regardless of brand or model.

    By mixing memory kits together, there may be compatibility issues such as unable to boot or unable to operate at rated specifications.

    Each of our memory kit are thoroughly tested to ensure compatibility within each memory kit. And because we have not tested our memory kit with your existing memory kit, we cannot guarantee compatibility when multiple kits are used.
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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    Thanks profJim, didn't know they also had a list for MB. :) Their sites appear to be sluggish though, and Corsair doesn't seem to have their configurator updated, as the latest I see are still for IV Z77 boards only.

    BTW, regarding 4x8Gb, I don't think GSkill has a 4x8Gb kit when I checked their site. Or do you mean getting 2 sets of the same 2x8Gb kit? Do I assume they should be accurately the same as if from the same kit?
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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    You're welcome.
    I've been poking around the G.Skill website since my previous post and haven't had any problems.
    Read their memory FAQ, it has some excellent information.
    Most memory manufactures' web sites have some type of ram configurator tool that will list the specific memory kits that they have tested for compatibility with specific motherboard models. While I'm partial to Mushkin memory, the G.Skill website is by far the most user friendly site.

    Contact Corsair tech support to see which of their memory kits will be compatible with your motherboard.

    Pay attention to the overall height of the memory kit that you will buy, because some memory heatspreaders are quite tall and might interfere with your cpu cooling setup.
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    Yeah, shortly after I posted, I had no problems w/ GSkill. Corsair though doesn't show any Haswell platforms, at least when I checked boards for Asus and Gigabyte. Maybe they haven't updated it, so I might as well try contact them.

    Right, about the RAM height, I've been researching too about my prospect cooler (212X) and many 212 evo and 212 plus users w/ ripjaws have said they just adjust the fans a bit higher.

    Also, I added a quick question in my last post, regarding 4x8Gb. I don't think GSkill has a 4x8Gb kit when I checked their site. Or do you mean getting 2 sets of the same 2x8Gb kit? Do I assume they should be accurately the same as if from the same kit? It's not too easy finding sets too from where I come from, but if 2 kits of the same model will be fine, then I can do that. Really not much choices over here that are convenient to acquire, unlike over there where you can easily order (and RMA) online.

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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    Quote Originally Posted by sherpa25 View Post
    . . . . .

    BTW, regarding 4x8Gb, I don't think GSkill has a 4x8Gb kit when I checked their site. Or do you mean getting 2 sets of the same 2x8Gb kit? Do I assume they should be accurately the same as if from the same kit?
    I just noticed your added question.
    I had added information in post #2 from the G.Skill FAQ that explains why there might be problems when you add another memory kit to your system. You might have problems even if the newer kit appears to be identical to an existing kit.

    I went back to their memory kit list for your motherboard and found five compatible 4 x 8GB memory kits :
    1. RipjawsX - F3-10666CL9Q-32GBXL - G.SKILL DDR3 Memory
    2. RipjawsX - F3-12800CL10Q-32GBXL - G.SKILL DDR3 Memory
    3. RipjawsZ - F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL - G.SKILL DDR3 Memory
    4. Sniper - F3-1600C9Q-32GSR - G.SKILL DDR3 Memory
    5. RipjawsX - F3-1600C9Q-32GXM - G.SKILL DDR3 Memory
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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    Thanks a lot, profJim. I presume the lower 1600 should not be significantly slower for a mild-OC system? Just planning 32gb really for mid-heavy photo editing, as I'm not sure 16gb would be fast enough, and wouldn't want to regret later if I didn't get compatible kits. Dilemma now would be looking for these locally, as I can only find 2x8gb kits.

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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    You're welcome, glad to help out.

    I think that 1600MHz will be fine.
    Check your motherboard user manual to see if you can overclock your memory speed.
    I don't think that significantly higher memory speeds would help with your heavy photo editing.
    Take a look at http://forums.tweaktown.com/memory/4...dy-bridge.html
    The best information on photo editing and higher memory speeds would probably be in a forum that deals with photo editing and processing with high end software. You might improve performance by installing a ram disk virtual disk for your temporary files folders.

    You could take a chance buying two identical memory kits, as long as the store manager would let you return both kits without a restocking charge if you have any problems. You should have the manager put this in writing and sign it on the sales receipt.

    Can you easily order a 4 x 8GB memory kit locally or from Australia, Hong Kong, or Japan without paying additional import fees?
    You would also need to see how much any shipping charges would be.

    Let us know how you make out with your new memory.
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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    You're welcome, glad to help out.

    I think that 1600MHz will be fine.
    Check your motherboard user manual to see if you can overclock your memory speed.
    I don't think that significantly higher memory speeds would help with your heavy photo editing.
    Take a look at http://forums.tweaktown.com/memory/4...dy-bridge.html
    The best information on photo editing and higher memory speeds would probably be in a forum that deals with photo editing and processing with high end software. You might improve performance by installing a ram disk virtual disk for your temporary files folders.
    Thanks for that link you started, interesting, and frankly, comforting :). I also happen to just search regarding 16Gb vs 32Gb and editing performance, and although many suggest loading RAM, I found a source that proved that Lightroom's core engine isn't yet programmed to maximize hardware resources (even when testing with Xeon processors and 64Gb RAM, though no benchmarks were given). That makes me think I would be better off with just 16Gb RAM for now and save the $100+ until perhaps the core engine does start significantly utilizing multi-core cpu, additional RAM and even GPU, as the article said. Considering the latest version was just released, and complains are still pouring, I would guess it would still take quite some time.

    You could take a chance buying two identical memory kits, as long as the store manager would let you return both kits without a restocking charge if you have any problems. You should have the manager put this in writing and sign it on the sales receipt.

    Can you easily order a 4 x 8GB memory kit locally or from Australia, Hong Kong, or Japan without paying additional import fees?
    You would also need to see how much any shipping charges would be.

    Let us know how you make out with your new memory.
    I can order from the US, but the problem would be returning it should a problem arise, as various charges (i.e. shipping, etc.) would cost an arm and a leg.

    Thanks again.

    By the way, how do I setup that RAM disk? Perhaps I can utilize some space from the SSD I plan to include w/ my new build. Any links to best set it up? I have many questions to understand it fully (i.e. is the data volatile, is the RAM disk permanent every boot, or do I set it up everytime I need it, and how do I determine a good RAM disk size, etc.). I hope I can find this info. Thanks.

    EDIT: I was just reading link/thread you shared, and just saw the link to Ramdisk. At first, I thought there was a way of setting it up in Windows, and didn't think it required a separate software, w/c is why I had so many questions. I'll look into it. Thanks.
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    Default Re: Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs

    Here's a comparison I did several years ago on my P35-DS3L dual core system with a sata2 ssd:

    Asus H87m-pro QVL - no 2x8gb (1600MHz) RAMs-cdm-wd640-4k-aligned-ocz-ssd-vertex-120gb-dataram-ramdisk-results-jpg

    Your system with a sata3 ssd and faster memory performance will have higher ssd and ram disk scores.
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