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Thread: Animal Cruelty in the MID-EAST




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    How about we round up those cruel pr...s, lock them in a room and I'll turn the handle on for the gas on......V-E-R-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y. I'd like to see them die a crueller death and a much slower one that they have just committed.

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    Seems to me the press is sensationalizing again.
    How uncommon is it for laboratories to use animals for testing?
    Sure, I understand where your coming from and all - saying everybody does it doesn't make it right. But it's an industry standard that isn't going to change in the foreseeable future.

    Well, maybe that isn't right either? Perhaps we should clone a person - make millions of them and use them for laboratory subjects. After all, does a clone have any rights? Are they really human? It's becoming close to reality to do such a thing - or maybe the cloning has taken place already?

    Hec, name me 1 government that hasn't used animals. OK, maybe some little tiki-tiki island province or something, I'll give you that. Now, name me 1 industrialized nation that hasn't, better yet, name me 1 that's not currently practicing on animals.

    It's a huge moral thing no doubt, generally rationalized with the ol' "Look at the benefit we are acheiving for mankind." arguement.

    I dunno', like I say - I understand where your coming from, but it's one of those issues that is pretty much there and nothing you're going to do to change it.

    Unless of course, you got a better plan?
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    I've got an idea! Instead of keeping all those killers in prison how about we use "them" in these trials. At least that way they will have paid the price for their crime instead of making a poor animal suffer for doing absolutely nothing wrong except for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.:?:

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    Well, as long as we're all getting pissed off at Middle Eastern countires for animal cruelty, let's get pissed off at every other country in the Western, 'civilized' *cough* world.

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    This is understandably becoming a touchy subject for obvious reasons. For me it was a shock to see this type of testing on animals so visabily.

    To Mr.C and Osiris, I doubt you'd find these countries you talk about laughing before they are about to test a lethal gas on an animal - it's all fun and games to some people and it's that what makes me more angry than anything and the fact of what is happening to the animal.

    Maybe I'm oblivious to what's going on -- surely though, this can't be right...
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    Though most nations don't use the animals for testing weapons of mass destruction (like nerve agents), but how many use these same animals for testing out medicical wonder-drugs? And all in the name of making things better for all humanity. Rats and monkeys seem to be the mainstay for these testing procedures, but other animals are used as well.

    Don't get me wrong... I'm not condoning the behavior, but Mr C hit the nail on the head when he stated that it wouldn't be ending anytime soon.
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    I did not see the clip mentioned but it is obvious from the posts it was very unpleasant.

    People who display pleasure while conducting any test on animals are sadley lacking something

    Animals will continue to be used for research & testing until other alternative & cost effective are methods are found.
    This is a commercial reality.
    Consumers are more aware of these practices now & some companies are limiting or have ceased this practice
    If these tests are to be carried due consideration to the animal must be paramount

    I am not in favor of these practices no way

    Weapons of mass destruction...... i would say every nation that has then.......would of tested them on animals or they have been tested on animals in development

    Speaking of development.........the soap, deodorants, aerosol's, hair spray, car polish,sovents ect ect ect.........all tested on animals more so in the past
    I have seen horiffic tests carried out useing our every day procucts
    We can make a diffrence............purchase carefully
    Thats my $0.02 worth

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    Heard on the radio this AM about some not watching CNN because they keep showing it.

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    Please explain to me what the similarities are betwwen animals and man.............after all didn't they use mice to experiment with for makeup etc:?: Why get all het up at one country for doing something we are all guilty of. ..................ppl in glass houses shouldn't throw stones you know...................clean up our own backyard first then clean up the rest of the world

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    Definitely a lot of strong feelings on this topic, and I wouldn't try to downplay that.
    Laughing before testing - I dunno' but if I had to do that for a living (and I pray I never do) I would have to find something like sick-sad-sorry humor to take my mind off the crap I was doing in an attempt to live with myself. Don't make it right though, I understand that too.
    There is a movement to make "greener products" ie. goods produced in ways less harmful to the environment.
    When they bleach the pulp to make toilet paper they make an awesome amount of toxic waste that is released back to the environment for the wildlife and fishies and yes, yourself to consume. Think about that next time you wipe your arse with the storbought cushy-stuff.
    I believe most members of the forum are about 1 generation prior to mine. In my generation pollution was a big topic too - as I know it is for you.
    I kinda' digress here, but the point is "1 planet 1 people".
    We can all do our little bit, but it's expensive. There are "green" products out there, but they generally cost more. For the gals, I know there are cosmetics etc. that say right on the label that no animal testing is involved in the production. I assume those cost a bit more too?
    We've gotten to the point where through the use of chemistry we can each make our little environment a better place to live - often that is at the cost of the over-all environment, planet Earth.

    Genetically engineered crops, hormones for cattle, animal testing, all big issues. I try to buy green, for example Ben & Jerry's ice cream - uses as little as possible products from cattle treated with rGBH, uses no bleached paper in the packaging but it's expensive and I don't buy a lot of it.

    I don't have any answers, but each day I see the issues:?:

    Did that show happen to mention they were testing nerve agent - maybe we should start with that issue first!
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