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Thread: GiMP's rant : Why do people feel they constantly need to upg




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    Ok heres my rant ! Enjoy :thumb:

    In the TT forums lately I've seen a few people now mentioning an upgrade they recently made or will be making to their computers , more so in larger forums such as IGN. Except in my mind the upgrades are negledgable at best and a waste of money. One such user of the TT forums stated he was going from an XP 2200+ to a 2400+ in his PC , now whats the use in this ? I have to be missing something here , does everyone just have that much more money to blow than me ? With my current system ( AMD Tbird 1GHz@1.4GHz , 1GB DDR2100 , GF3 ) I can max out any game on the market at high res and get a much more than acceptable frame rate , ie:

    GTA3 - 1280x1024 (everything max)
    SOF2 - 1600x1200 (everything max except texture quality is down 1 notch but zero noticeable difference)
    MOHAA - 1600x1200 (everything max , shadows on standard)
    UT2k3 - 1280x1024 (everything max)
    Jedi Knight 2 - 1600x1200 (everything max)
    RtCW - 1600x1200 (everything max)

    the list goes on , thoughs are just some of the more intensive games on the market now. An acceptable frame rate to me is over 40FPS continualy and I get at least that in all thoughs. So really , whats the need to constantly upgrade ? Can you personaly see the difference between 100FPS and 109FPS ? Or even 40 and 60 ? I can't. I can see if your buying a new system out of the box you want as much power as you can afford , thats where buying a new 2600+ and some good quality DDR2700 is understandable. But even a 2000+ to 2600+ ? Why ? Does going from 9000 to 11000 3dmarks make you horny ? lol.
    This is how I decide when to upgrade , when I can no longer play the latest games on the market at 1024x768 everything at max. Right now I couldn't even justify going from my 1.4 gig tbird to an XP 2600+ or even a hammer if it was out. Because I can play any game at its best.
    Does anyone have an oppinion on this ? I think its stupid and the money could be better spent else where !

    *end rant*

    sorry its just something that bugs me lol :D theres my rant feel free to add , comment , etc
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    Wow now if your allowing people to join the "Gimp Ranting Triad" (kinda sounds good) I'm definitly in. It does make perfect sense. I would love to upgrade but right now its unncessary cause I haven't played a game yet that is unplayable on an athlon thunderbird 1.4 256MB PC2100 and a GF3. Even the new demo of UT2003 I still have enough power to play it with 4X AA on. Quake 3 I always play with 4XAA on and still hit between 50-100FPS. Of course that verious pending on the spot that I am. I bult my PC over a year ago actually its birthday just passed cause I built it on 9/15/01 and I remember it perfectly cuase the US grounded all its planes because of the 9/11 tradgedy. A PC that is over a yera old and still going strong. I still have not come across a single game that I don't play strong. Of course I only run games at 1024X768. But who's counting anyway? :D
    THUNDERBIRDS FOR LIFE!!! lol

    btw how do you check the frame rate on ut2003? they changed the console and I don't know the command

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    Well I think that spendin' 4yrs with my current one (see No.1 PC in sig) with only a change of CPU from a K6-2 500 to a K6-3+ 450.
    It's time for me to have a new one and here's the specs. ;)

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    ReSpAwN DeMoN , bring down the console and type: stat fps
    thanks for the support :cheers:



    Nice Wiggo :thumb: thats a real upgrade
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    There's plenty of reasons why people do it.

    1. Bragging rights - who doesn't want the biggest and best machine out there. It's like guys with cars. All the little adjustments they make aren't needed, the car still runs fine, but this makes it go that little bit faster / more efficient, etc...

    2. Continuous upgrade - I'm kind of guilty of this one. It's basically when you occasionally upgrade older pieces of equipment in your PC, just to make sure you don't fall too far behind what's being released. I almost make it a rule that if I have a part in my PC that has been out of production for a year, then it's time to replace. Plus all the parts I remove usually work their way down through either my second PC, or through family PCs, and when I get enough parts at the end, I put together a PC to sell... that way you aren't trying to sell some antique piece of $#!^.

    3. More money that brain - self explanatory really

    4. Experimenting / learning curve - Trying new pieces of hardware all the time is a handy thing to do.


    That's my $.02

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    Well I not "Upgrading" my cpu it's part of my new comp so its only going to cost a little more... I havent bought a 2200+.....
    New Sig soon, old one was way outdated.

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    But what is there to brag about really ? I get 14.5 fps more than you even though its not visible to the naked eye ? I'd be like " wow you dropped $500+ on a new Ti4600 and another $500 on a new 2600+ for an increase you can't even see ... hit yourself in the face "
    And you can always tune a car because theres is no limit to the power/performance , you always want a lil more and its always benificial. But thats different from a PC because a slower computer can do everything a faster one can without noticeable slowdown (you can actualy see a performance increase in a car).
    How can you learn something from installing new hardware ? I could learn just as much installing an old trident card in a 486 as I could installing a Ti4600 in a P4 2.8 gig machine. The only variable is driver features which can be thougholy learnt in minutes.
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    WIth my current hardware on a brand new game that didn't even come out yet! Mainly focusing on UT2003 this is what I get

    with AA off I average about 30FPS on the first map for deathmatch
    with 4XAA on I average about 20-25FPS on the first map for deathmatch. There for I don't need to upgrade well shall wait and see for doom 3 and when that comes then I will need to upgrade.

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    I get about 40FPS on 1280x1024 no AA
    AMD Thunderbird AXIA 1000MHz @ 1400MHz
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    20GB WD 7200RPM ATA66
    40GB WD 7200RPM ATA133
    60GB Maxtor 7200RPM ATA100
    Enlight Case / 17" Hansol Monitor

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    heh well your also running 4 times the amount of ram then me :eek:

    I only have 256 I am in much need of ram cause every time I close down games my comp lags down to 486 speeds unless I reboot or open a thousand programs and close them to shuffler the ram usage I think if I bump up my ram to 768 which is my plain as soon as price drop a bit I'm gonna get an increase in performance

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