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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggo's-sister
    They will survive, just to make us pay that little bit more

    *******s!!!


    And I bet they're the first to get evacuated as well
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    Here's an update on the situation:
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    Oh, oh, look!!! they named it after lil old me!!!

    It's getting closer to them :flames:
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    Run refo's, she means business!!! :flames:
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    Although I don't agree with what the refugees are doing. Bitting the hand that feeds them is an act that is going to get them offside with most Australians. Australians take their freedom for granted, and I reckon all we see is these queue jumpers coming into the contry illegally. We don't stop to think why they are coming here.

    Just think for a minute, these families are leaving their homes and everything they know to travel halfway around the world in hope of finding a better life (such as we take for granted), only to find themselves imprisoned in these detention camps for up to 2 years. Can you honestly imagine your dad gathering your family up to escape unliveable conditions where half your family and friends have been killed, to travel halfway around the world only to be imprisioned for this amount of time?!? If I was in their position, I reckon I'd be going crazy too! I saw a news article the other night where a young girl had lost her entire family either through fighting back home, or in the journey over here. Are you honestly going to tell someone like this to go back where she came from?

    The problem is not the refugees, it 's our governments lack of knack in dealing with them properly. It would have been a lot wiser if little weasle John Howard had spent the 10's of millions of dollars he spent in increasing the patrols in developing a better way to deal with the problem.

    Just my 2 cents...

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    My main beef is the changing definition of "asylum seeker". Back in the 1970's, the boat people fleeing Vietnam arrived here because some fisherman was prepared to fill his boat with people to flee communism. But these people pay big $$$ to get to Australia, often as much as A$10,000. Then they act like poor refugees - they are just queuejumpers. If you want to come here - spend the $10,000 to come here legally
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    [b]Just think for a minute, these families are leaving their homes and everything they know to travel halfway around the world in hope of finding a better life (such as we take for granted), only to find themselves imprisoned in these detention camps for up to 2 years. Can you honestly imagine your dad gathering your family up to escape unliveable conditions where half your family and friends have been killed, to travel halfway around the world only to be imprisioned for this amount of time?!? If I was in their position, I reckon I'd be going crazy too! I saw a news article the other night where a young girl had lost her entire family either through fighting back home, or in the journey over here. Are you honestly going to tell someone like this to go back where she came from?
    Yes I would in all honesty as most of these ppl bring the problem that they say that they're escaping with them and there are several communitees around Australia where these ppl have settled that are suffering because of it. :mad:
    [b]The problem is not the refugees, it 's our governments lack of knack in dealing with them properly. It would have been a lot wiser if little weasle John Howard had spent the 10's of millions of dollars he spent in increasing the patrols in developing a better way to deal with the problem.
    Yep I agree. It should be "See that plane you ppl? Get on it as ya goin' straight back." <img src="http://members.optushome.com.au/wiggo100/fal.gif">
    I have absolutely no time or sympathy for ppl who try and force themselves on to others and hopefully what's goin' on atm will act as a deterent to others with the same thought in mind. <img src="http://members.optushome.com.au/wiggo100/madfire.gif">
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    Wiggo, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but you hold a very redneck view. Which is your prerogative, so I'm not having a go at you. Unfortunately, it seems a fair percentage of Australia have a similar view, which I find very scary and almost embarrassing to be a citizen of a country that holds such narrow views on such important international issues. The idea that people would rather turn these people away to face almost certain death instead of lending a hand I reckon is a bit ****ed.

    Simply put, desperate people do desperate things. I am NOT saying open the flood gates and let them all in. What I am saying is instead of pumping all of those 10's of millions of dollars into trying to catch them before they get here. Some of it should be spent on finding a better, and more humane way of dealing with the one that are here.

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    I think you will find the majority of Aussies don't care where immigrants come from, the problem here seems to be the fact that the illegal immigrants seem to take for granted they don't have to follow any proceedures once they make it to our shores, just because they have paid a sum of money to a sleasy fishboat owner to escape to Australia doesn't mean they automatically have the right to Australian citizenship, they brought ILLEGAL passage, they have not brought entry into our country, should we just say tsk tsk and let them go? What sort of invitation would that lead other ppl to think? That as long as they reach our shores they are home and hosed? Where do we fit them all? Do we stop legal immigration to be able to handle the influx of illegal immigrants? We wont be able to handle the numbers that would come anyway. Its a tough problem and no matter how it is resolved there wont be satisfied ppl.:kay:

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    Hi Kay,

    I agree with everything you say. However, I think there are a lot of people aren't distinguishing between a true refugee, and queue hopping pieces of crap, and seem to be putting all of them in the a queue-hopping piece of crap basket. A true refugee being a person fleeing their country for fear of their life, and have a genuine need for help from the international community (which we’re meant to be a part of). A queue-hopping piece of crap being a person who simply doesn’t feel they should have to go through the rig moral of following procedure like the rest of us.

    We need more resources to actually distinguish the two before even considering granting refugee status. That’s why John Howard’s decision to spend a truckload of our money on increasing patrols really pisses me off. While a lack of patrols is part of the problem, it isn’t the whole problem. His solution is very short sighted and is doing nothing to improve what’s at the core of the problem in Australia, which is what do we do with them once they get here. Anyone who says, “send ‘em back where they came from” is not looking at the real problem, or a redneck, or is sticking their head in the sand. I think it is our responsibility as a member of an international community to find a REAL solution to the problem.

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