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  1. #431
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    It is very likely that you will be around 10,000 marks. Here is my score for my Ti500 when it was in the computer listed in my sig - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5003832 I will never use another ATI card. Nothing but problems from the get-go. I have had only one problem with nVidia based cards and that was because the card was bad. I still use my Ti500 regularly. It has proven to be an excellant card. It also out performs any G4 MX version card.
    <h6><font color=black>P4 2.53Mhz cooled by <a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/orbs/dragon478s.htm" target="_blank"><font color=green>TT P4 Dragon HSF</font></a>
    Asus P4PE 533Mhz fsb board w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> Tiger Orb chipset HSF
    Samsung 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Cas 2.5
    WD 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    Seagate 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    VisionTek G4 Ti4600 w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> G4 Copper VGA HSF & RAMsinks
    Using nVidia 42.68 Dets w/DX 9
    Samsung 16x DVD
    Lite-On 40X12X48 CD-RW
    Creative SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer
    Creative Inspire 5.1 Speakers
    <font color=red>Tt</font color> 420 watt PSU w/dual fans
    Viewsonic G810 21" CRT
    WinXP Pro Corp w/SP-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfin
    It is very likely that you will be around 10,000 marks. Here is my score for my Ti500 when it was in the computer listed in my sig - http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=5003832 I will never use another ATI card. Nothing but problems from the get-go. I have had only one problem with nVidia based cards and that was because the card was bad. I still use my Ti500 regularly. It has proven to be an excellant card. It also out performs any G4 MX version card.
    I don't think Immortals situation has anything to do with Ati - the card was made by HIS, and for what it is (half of the memory bandwidth) it works fine....the GF4MX420 is more or less the same thing....it just really pays to research the specs on low end cards before you buy.

    I've used at least one version of every Geforce and Radeon generation & not experienced any problems other than with the very early R8500 drivers...both types of cards have their individual merits.

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    I was just stating that I personally would not use another ATI card. I know his was not made by ATI. Right now the 9700pro is the best card out, but I still have had better experiences with nVidia based cards, notably the VisionTek line. Also, from what I have heard, ATI based cards are built better and perform better than ATI's own cards. RDR, you are right about each card having it's own merits, it's all about each person's own experiences with different PC hardware. ATI has also put a lot of effort into there newer drivers and have had far fewer problems than in the past. For ATI to come out with the 9700pro and blow doors over any other card proves that they know what they're doing. It great to see someone else other than nVidia be on top. This will just make us users benefit from two companys striving for the top spot. Just looking at the specs of the Geforce FX makes me wonder how lifelike gaming will be in the future. I am now eager to see what ATI will do to compete with the FX card. I just wish they would lower prices on the new cards. Yeah right, llike that will ever happen.
    <h6><font color=black>P4 2.53Mhz cooled by <a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/orbs/dragon478s.htm" target="_blank"><font color=green>TT P4 Dragon HSF</font></a>
    Asus P4PE 533Mhz fsb board w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> Tiger Orb chipset HSF
    Samsung 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Cas 2.5
    WD 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    Seagate 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    VisionTek G4 Ti4600 w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> G4 Copper VGA HSF & RAMsinks
    Using nVidia 42.68 Dets w/DX 9
    Samsung 16x DVD
    Lite-On 40X12X48 CD-RW
    Creative SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer
    Creative Inspire 5.1 Speakers
    <font color=red>Tt</font color> 420 watt PSU w/dual fans
    Viewsonic G810 21" CRT
    WinXP Pro Corp w/SP-1

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    Well i used before this Radeon , Geforce 2 and after upgrade i didnt notice much better quality in 2d , but i notice , big differnce in quality of tv - out , on Radeon was just great , and on my old Geforce 2 hmm not bad , but nothing to compare with Ati. Anyway i going back to Geforce again , today i will have this Ti500 , and see what can i get from this baby :D.

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    I just updated my drivers to the Detonator 40.72 and my score jumped up an average of 150 points to a modest 5847 3Dmarks. It's still one of the lowest scores w/similar processor/video card as my configuration, according to project search and compare on the madonion/futuremark website. Why?
    • Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
    • GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    • COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply
    • G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    • One EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
    • SONY 52x12x52 CDRW
    • LG 16x DVD-ROM
    • Zonet 4+1Port USB2.0 PCI Card
    • Hauppauge Win/TV capture card
    • Generic floppy disc drive
    • Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    • Wireless-802.11B Linksys Router w/2200 mbps dsl
    • ViewSonic VA721 17" flatscreen lcd monitor
    • Logitech optical mouse
    • Cyber Acoustics 40 watt speakers w/sub
    • WIN XP HOME w/SP3 OEM
    • 3DMark2001SE score: 25182, 3DMark03: 15040, 3DMark05: 9538
    • CPU temp@28C w/stock HSF
    • Black Generic Case w/self cut side window w/one 80mm front intake, one 80mm side intake(blue LED), and one 60mm rear exhaust fan

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    That's easy as the prob lays with ya motherboard and memory bein' a rather large bottleneck. Basically ya CPU can throw information at the memory faster than the memory can throw it back and then there is the video card plus other DMA hardware that must have access to this pittifully slow memory. A significant increase in performance could be gained by a new motherboard and DDR memory alone plus would give ya a stepping stone for further upgrades later (maybe a "Barton" AthlonXP, some USB 2.0 devices, etc,..). :devil win
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    I noticed on the Chaintech website that I could flash my bios with an upgrade and my MoBo would be able to accept an Athlon XP 2000+, 2100+, or 2200+ CPU(it currently will only accept Duron and Athlon up to 1.5 Ghrtz). Now, how can that be? I thought those faster processors used a much faster chipset like the KT333 or similar. I only have a KT133. Can I really upgrade my MoBo bios to where I can use an Athlon XP with my lowly KT133?:confused:
    • Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
    • GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    • COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply
    • G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    • One EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
    • SONY 52x12x52 CDRW
    • LG 16x DVD-ROM
    • Zonet 4+1Port USB2.0 PCI Card
    • Hauppauge Win/TV capture card
    • Generic floppy disc drive
    • Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    • Wireless-802.11B Linksys Router w/2200 mbps dsl
    • ViewSonic VA721 17" flatscreen lcd monitor
    • Logitech optical mouse
    • Cyber Acoustics 40 watt speakers w/sub
    • WIN XP HOME w/SP3 OEM
    • 3DMark2001SE score: 25182, 3DMark03: 15040, 3DMark05: 9538
    • CPU temp@28C w/stock HSF
    • Black Generic Case w/self cut side window w/one 80mm front intake, one 80mm side intake(blue LED), and one 60mm rear exhaust fan

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    It is possible but why would ya honestly want too? :?:
    <small>never seen a KT133 that would run at 133MHz FSB though</small>

    The faster the CPU the bigger the bottleneck becomes. :eek:


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    Okay, what about this. Say I flash my bios and add a speedy Athlon XP CPU and then add another chip of 512mb pc133 sdram for a total of 1024 mb of memory. Would that be almost as good as having DDR memory?
    • Intel Pentium E2180 Allendale 2.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
    • GIGABYTE GA-G31M-S2L LGA 775 Intel G31 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    • COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-460-PMSR-A3 460W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply
    • G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
    • One EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
    • SONY 52x12x52 CDRW
    • LG 16x DVD-ROM
    • Zonet 4+1Port USB2.0 PCI Card
    • Hauppauge Win/TV capture card
    • Generic floppy disc drive
    • Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
    • Wireless-802.11B Linksys Router w/2200 mbps dsl
    • ViewSonic VA721 17" flatscreen lcd monitor
    • Logitech optical mouse
    • Cyber Acoustics 40 watt speakers w/sub
    • WIN XP HOME w/SP3 OEM
    • 3DMark2001SE score: 25182, 3DMark03: 15040, 3DMark05: 9538
    • CPU temp@28C w/stock HSF
    • Black Generic Case w/self cut side window w/one 80mm front intake, one 80mm side intake(blue LED), and one 60mm rear exhaust fan

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    No. No matter how much memory you put in there you will not create more bandwidth. Your Duron throws data around at 200MHz, an Athlon at the speeds ya talkin' of at 266MHz, PC133's standard speed is 133MHz, now can't ya see what's wrong here? A Duron is better suited to PC2100 (this leaves 66MHz for DMA hardware to use without having to reduce the CPU's bandwidth to it), 266MHz FSB Athlons w/ PC2700 and 333MHz FSB Athlons w/ PC3200. This way the memory isn't a bottleneck and everything gets good access to it. With PC133 everything has to push and shove for what little is available thus the CPU spends a lot of cycles in a wait state while the memory tries to catch up. : peace2:
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