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    Default 3D Mark Disappointment. Can I improve?

    I scored aprox 10000 with 3DMark06 and it said in comparison of other like systems that scored 11000. Considering the specs of my computer do you guys it is a good score or if it should by better?

    So I am also wondering if anyone has suggestions on how I can speed the machine up without OC'ing it?

    Here is the specs: (I try to leave just useful information from msinfo and CPUz)
    General:
    Computer specs:
    1 Patriot Viper 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PVS24G8500ELK - Retail
    1 GIGABYTE GA-P35C-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    1 XFX PVT88PYDD4 GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
    1 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail

    THe Details:

    OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Ultimate
    Version 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 Build 6001
    System Model P35C-DS3R
    System Type x64-based PC
    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2400 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. F4, 9/7/2007
    SMBIOS Version 2.4
    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.0.6001.18000"
    Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
    Total Physical Memory 4.00 GB
    Available Physical Memory 0.99 GB
    Total Virtual Memory 8.21 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 6.12 GB
    Page File Space 4.29 GB

    ATA IDE Drives :(

    Name NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
    PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0611&SUBSYS_23301682&REV_A2\4&39B D1753&0&0008
    Adapter Type GeForce 8800 GT, NVIDIA compatible
    Adapter Description NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
    Adapter RAM 512.00 MB (536,870,912 bytes)
    Installed Drivers nvd3dum,nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2umx.dll
    Driver Version 7.15.11.6932
    INF File oem13.inf (nv_NV3x section)
    Color Planes Not Available
    Color Table Entries 4294967296
    Resolution 1280 x 1024 x 85 hertz
    Bits/Pixel 32
    Memory Address 0xF6000000-0xF6FFFFFF
    Memory Address 0xE0000000-0xEFFFFFFF
    Memory Address 0xF4000000-0xF7FFFFFF
    I/O Port 0x0000A000-0x0000AFFF
    IRQ Channel IRQ 16
    I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
    I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
    Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
    Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\nvlddmkm.sys (7.15.11.6932, 9.71 MB (10,186,016 bytes), 4/4/2008 12:33 AM)

    CPUz:
    Chipset
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Northbridge Intel P35/G33/G31 rev. A2
    Southbridge Intel 82801IR (ICH9R) rev. 02
    Graphic Interface PCI-Express
    PCI-E Link Width x16
    PCI-E Max Link Width x16
    Memory Type DDR2
    Memory Size 4096 MBytes
    Channels Dual (Symmetric)
    Memory Frequency 533.4 MHz (1:2)
    CAS# 5.0
    RAS# to CAS# 7
    RAS# Precharge 7
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 16
    Command Rate 2T

    Memory SPD
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    DIMM #1

    General
    Memory type DDR2
    Module format Regular UDIMM
    Manufacturer (ID) PDP Systems (7F7F7F7F7F020000)
    Size 2048 MBytes
    Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
    Part number PVS24G8500ELK

    Attributes
    Number of banks 2
    Data width 64 bits
    Correction None
    Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
    EPP yes (1 profiles)
    XMP no

    Timings table
    Frequency (MHz) 200 266 400
    CAS# 3.0 4.0 5.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay 3 4 5
    RAS# Precharge 3 4 5
    TRAS 6 8 12
    TRC 11 14 21

    EPP profile 1 (full)
    Voltage level 2.300 Volts
    Address Command Rate 2T
    Cycle time 1.875 ns (533.3 MHz)
    tCL 5.0 clocks
    tRCD 5 clocks (9.25 ns)
    tRP 5 clocks (9.25 ns)
    tRAS 15 clocks (28.00 ns)
    tRC 30 clocks (55.00 ns)
    tWR 8 clocks (15.00 ns)


    DIMM #2

    General
    Memory type DDR2
    Module format Regular UDIMM
    Manufacturer (ID) PDP Systems (7F7F7F7F7F020000)
    Size 2048 MBytes
    Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
    Part number PVS24G8500ELK

    Attributes
    Number of banks 2
    Data width 64 bits
    Correction None
    Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
    EPP yes (1 profiles)
    XMP no

    Timings table
    Frequency (MHz) 200 266 400
    CAS# 3.0 4.0 5.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay 3 4 5
    RAS# Precharge 3 4 5
    TRAS 6 8 12
    TRC 11 14 21

    EPP profile 1 (full)
    Voltage level 2.300 Volts
    Address Command Rate 2T
    Cycle time 1.875 ns (533.3 MHz)
    tCL 5.0 clocks
    tRCD 5 clocks (9.25 ns)
    tRP 5 clocks (9.25 ns)
    tRAS 15 clocks (28.00 ns)
    tRC 30 clocks (55.00 ns)
    tWR 8 clocks (15.00 ns)


    Thanks for any help.
    Last edited by TitusCicero; 04-08-2008 at 07:18 AM.

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    Default Re: 3D Mark Disappointment. Can I improve?

    does it really matter what score u get in 3dmark06??? its the real world games that u play which count the most!

    OMGOSH, i got 10000 marks less than a computer with a 5GHZ core 2 extreme with 3 8800GT in tri-sli. my computer must be so crap...

    i get lyk 900 3dmarks less...and my system has same components if not better,i think my comp is underperforming.

    it could be random processes interfering in your benchmark.
    it ould be settins such as AA anf AF which are switched on without u knowing. this is relevent especially in un-registered versions of 3dmark06
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    Default Re: 3D Mark Disappointment. Can I improve?

    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    does it really matter what score u get in 3dmark06??? its the real world games that u play which count the most!

    OMGOSH, i got 10000 marks less than a computer with a 5GHZ core 2 extreme with 3 8800GT in tri-sli. my computer must be so crap...

    i get lyk 900 3dmarks less...and my system has same components if not better,i think my comp is underperforming.

    it could be random processes interfering in your benchmark.
    it ould be settins such as AA anf AF which are switched on without u knowing. this is relevent especially in un-registered versions of 3dmark06
    lol...can you blame me? I just spent around $900usd upgrading my machine and would like to know why it's performing 1000 points less on a 3dbenchmark in comparison to like machines. Wow, just call me a consumer!

    The board I chose scored top notch on TomHardware.com for best ddr3 board (for when I want to upgrade) and all the other hardware is good too.

    You do have a point. I am not sure how relevant 3DMark is to real world applications. I know for a fact it bombed on my CPU cuz it didn't use all 4...but neither do the games for the most part. For the most part I am satisfied with the game performance, which is not to say that it couldn't be better. Which benchmarks do you suggest?

    I didn't know the free 3dmark performed differently than the retail version? However if AA was turned on it would compare it to like tests with like machines when I checked the stats, right? So even if it was turned on I would still be wondering why my system scored less.

    Someone on another board mentioned the ATA IDE drives I am using and suggested to get rid of the swap file since I have ample RAM. I just couldn't bring myself to upgrade to SATA yet. I got rid of the swapfile and will try out the performance soon when I get home. I am skeptical though if it will effect the 3DMark score.

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    Default Re: 3D Mark Disappointment. Can I improve?

    I still dont think removing the swap file will be a good idea, since if you run out of RAM, which i know u definetly will, ur comp will crash due to insufficient ram. Unless u ahve around 8GB or >6GB then the swap file can be removed. but to be on the safe side leave it as it is, u CAN reduce the size of it to free up spce but thats about it.

    Remember, other ppl who benchmark have different hardware to yours! in order to actually get those high level 3dmarks, you have to hav a very similar system, if not faster! OBviously, ur IDE hdd WILL hamper the speeds in wat ever benchmark which needs hdd input.

    Well, wat do u mean by upgrade? was it a complete system overhaul with new case,mb,ram,cpu etc? or just upped some parts of ur system.
    Asrock P55-Extreme
    Core I5 @ 3.2GHZ
    2x2GB G.skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600
    ASUS HD5850
    1TB Samsung SATA II
    Corsair TX650W PSU

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    Default Re: 3D Mark Disappointment. Can I improve?

    Getting rid of the swapfile will not do anything except cause major problems with your OS. Whoever told you to remove it is a moron. I don't care if you have 16Gb of ram, there is no need or benefit for removing the swap file since Windows is designed to look for it anyways.

    3D Mark 06 free version runs exactly the same as the pay version. The pay version just allows you to change settings.

    Lastly, having a score only 1K lower is meaningless as well. There are so many factors as to how the scores can vary it is mind boggling. If you want a higher score, start tweaking and overclocking that thing. Running it stock will get you nowhere fast in 3D Mark scoring. There is nothing short of overclocking that is going to give you a dramatic increase in your score.
    GIgabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
    AMD FX8120 @ 4GHz
    Patriot 1866MHz EL series 2X4GB DDR3
    Powercolour HD 6970 2GB w/XFX 8800GT 512MB Hybrid PhysX
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