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Thread: 4X4 tweak attempt idea, Honda Civic turned off road?




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    Default Re: 4X4 tweak attempt idea, Honda Civic turned off road?

    ok i don't know what the problem is maybe the world is to pesimistic but anyways if you know of a 4x4 setup in a civic already i would start there see if you can find those parts the complete transaxle the whole rear setup ect. if you could just find a junker somewhere and get it, just strip it of the parts you need and as for a bit of a lift you could always upgrade the suspencion to airbags wont help if you decide to go off road but it would give you a bit of clearance when you wanted it and let you keep the car at a "normal" ride height most of the time you will need to either do some custom work yourself or find someone to do it for you but not as much as you would think since you want to keep it all civic anyways if you go with looking for a junker you should get just about everything you will need as it would be a little beefed up already the only down side i can think of is getting a parts car that has the setup you want but very few useable parts so be careful also there are swap lists on the net for more than just engines they cover everything from stearing wheels to bolt on frontend conversions with little or no modifications search on google see what you can find i'll do the same and get back to you as i'm working on the same thing for one of my civics but i'm using a s-10 frame. but good luck and don't let anyone talk you out of trying cause dreams are made real with effort not hope oh and as to the cost of going 4x4 and lifted you should be able to do it for less than 10g if you shop around and just lifting it i think you could for under 2 or 3g's

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    Default Re: 4X4 tweak attempt idea, Honda Civic turned off road?

    This thread was as dumb of an idea a year ago when it was started as it is now. The cost would be more like 20K+ to get a shop to do it and there would still be major obstacles to doing it. The only 4WD Civic ever was based on a different platform that shares nothing in common with the regular Civic. You could not just put airbags in and lift it enough to go offroad because you would change the suspension geometry so much that the tires would be at a 45 degree angle when lifted. You'd be snapping those weak CV joints every time you even thought of going offroad. It makes no rational sense to do this to a car just because you like it. Plus after you factor in all the weight added, you have a severely underpowered car that would burn more gas than 3 Civics. Making the engine more powerful would also do the same.

    The only "sensible" idea so far is your idea of putting the Civic body on a S-10 4WD chassis as that can be done cheaply. Even that would still cost you around 10K to have done in a shop, but a decent backyard mechanic could handle it.

    This thread ranks a 9 in the dumbness scale. I would have given it a solid 10 if you didn't offer the only reasonable solution as your answer. Besides, responding to 1+ year old threads will most likely just get you yelled at by the mods. If you need a sport ute, get one. Don't expect a car to do what a sport ute can. It is impossible and impractical.
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    Default Re: 4X4 tweak attempt idea, Honda Civic turned off road?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimsmithkka View Post
    i have a ordinary honda civic dx 4dr sedan, i want to see if i can turn it into a 4x4 tuff vehicle, i know honda made a civic wagon with 4x4 an want to try and see if i can do the same to my civic, then add a raise on the body and a sett of beefeyer tires, its not impossible bu i want to see how cheap can do it, if i do it
    Hmmm. Try a Lamborghini Countach Mod, or better yet, A Lamborghini LP640 Mod. I have seen a Corvette modded in Dicovery Channel's Monster Garage, They made a NOS injected one. I like that concept, not practical though.

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    ALso the amount of cutting required will weaken the unibody to modify it to 4wd. SAfest, more reliable and easier way is to get a 4wd truck/jeep chassis with the same wheelbase and bolt the body to that. Still gonna have to fab some things. We have a chevette running around here on a CJ7 chassis with 38" tires. COuple of el Caminos also with a similar setup. These were done apparently a loooong time ago when the lifted 4x4 thing was big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fowweezer View Post
    I know nothing about cars, but I've also got a Honda Civic that I'd like to just have lifted. This is the only place I've even seen mention of doing this. I don't do off-roading, I just want the ability to get it up some of the dirt trails in the mountains where I hike and climb, that require slightly higher-clearance vehicles. I don't even need 4WD, I just want higher clearance to get over a few of the ruts and stuff like that that it currently can't handle but my friend's jeep (stock, no changes) can. And I don't want to have to buy a new car, cause I love my Civic (gas mileage, reliability, etc).

    So, how much would it cost me to get it lifted by someone who knows what they are doing? I'm just looking for an estimate before I decide to pursue this. Any ideas?
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    Default Re: 4X4 tweak attempt idea, Honda Civic turned off road?

    20 or so years ago when I was in the automotive repair business we used to see a lot of vehicles "jacked up" useing air shocks. The shock bracket was then forced to hold all of the weight rather than the spring assembly. The end result was that the shock brackets would break off.
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    Default Re: 4X4 tweak attempt idea, Honda Civic turned off road?

    Airbags are incredible for temporarily jacking up something. It uses the spring mounts and actually holds the load properly. But jacking up the front suspension would really mess up the steering geometry to the point of it could be very dangerous to drive the vehicle.
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    ok look! the swap from a 4th gen wagon awd to a 4th gen 4dr, crx, or hatch is really not all that hard. You will need the whole 4wd car to start out with. Then you will need to junk the whole rear suspension off your car. You will need to swap in the 4wd tranny (it bolts right up), as it has a transfer case built into it for the rear driveline. You will need to have a driveshaft shop make you a driveline. Then with very little cutting and weldilg you will need to put in the whole rear suspension and diff. Its not all that hard and it can be done. A custom exhaust will be needed as well. also to solve the simple ground clearance issue, adjustable coilovers turned all the way up.

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    When will this thread ever end?

    Why don't you just go down and buy yourself a truck. It's about the same cost as all those mods and it will save you a heck of a lot of time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by badasscivicbuilder View Post
    ok look! the swap from a 4th gen wagon awd to a 4th gen 4dr, crx, or hatch is really not all that hard. You will need the whole 4wd car to start out with. Then you will need to junk the whole rear suspension off your car. You will need to swap in the 4wd tranny (it bolts right up), as it has a transfer case built into it for the rear driveline. You will need to have a driveshaft shop make you a driveline. Then with very little cutting and weldilg you will need to put in the whole rear suspension and diff. Its not all that hard and it can be done. A custom exhaust will be needed as well. also to solve the simple ground clearance issue, adjustable coilovers turned all the way up.
    Why in the hell would you even waste all that time when you can either buy that car and drive it (the 4wd one) even though that 4WD system is complete **** offroad and you'll get stuck on the first rock/mud puddle, or you can just buy something new with real 4WD and a 4CLY for economy.

    This entire idea is STUPID AND WORTHLESS!!!!! Why would anyone every spend that much on a Honda car for offroad that won't be even remotely competent for offroad? There is a reason you don't drive cars offroad. THEY CAN'T!!!!

    I wonder how many other dumasses will register to post in this stupid thread.

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