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    well i dont know much about water cooling systems but common sense shows that a inline would save more space and i guess it would be easier to bleed but there are probably a lot more differences between them,

    for the option of cooling more than the cpu i think the best order would be :

    ->reservoir->pump->cpu->gpu->mobo chipset->radiator->

    as for cooling other things i already have the ThermalTake Giant2 for my video card, and the mobo im getting already has great cooling.
    GBRRICCI

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    The water should be pushed through the radiator and then directly in to the cpu waterblock after that. :devil win

    In a system with everything watercooled you should build a system for the cpu cooling and a separate system that cools the gpu & northbridge. One can always use a big reservoar for both systems water as long as the volyme is big enough. The important thing is that they don't have to share radiators. This means more $$ but it would give ya mutch better result in a water rig with overall lower temps.. :)

    I consider to build me a big system myself in a server tower but I have some problems getting a Dangerden Maze 4 waterblock shipped to my location.. :(
    Dangerden makes some sweet H2o parts.. : peace2:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker
    OK, I'm gonna ask the newbish questions....
    Having never set up a watercooling system....what's the diff between an inline and reservoir system? Is it just like a closed or open hydraulic system? ( I've dealt with both on mountain bike braking systems ) So what's the advantage of an inline system, other than not having to buy/make room for a reservoir? I can see how things like larger lines will increase flow, but wouldn't an inline system cut down on the amount of coolant?
    An inline system is just the pump, radiator, waterblock(s) and tubing. If you have connected everything up properly, there will be no 'dead'(stationary) water. However, in a reservoir system, the water gets pumped from the pump, goes through the waterblocks, radiator, then goes into the reservoir and sits there until the pump sucks it in to get it back in motion.

    Other than not having to buy/make room for a reservoir, advantages of an inline system is there are 2 less connections which lowers risk of leaks, I can't think of any mroe atm.

    Yes, an inline system does cut down on the ammount of coolant which could impact temperatures in a negative way, but if you have a good enough radiator and fan, this should be negligible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker
    My mind has been spinning as the system you're putting together, Andy, would fit into one of my compact cases pretty nicely, as would the system GBRICCI described....
    What kind of gains in cooling could I expect?
    IMO, you will have trouble fitting watercooling gear in a compact case, unless of course, all the necessary connections are near each other and doesn't require any sharp turns(which can be overcome with 90 degree elbow joints, but add more complexity to the system). If however you do decide to attempt it, I'm open to answer any question you might have :)

    If you compare watercooling to conventional air cooling, you should find that parts cooled by the water will be a lot closer to ambient temperature than those cooled by air. Also, the amount of noise produced would be a lot less for a watercooled system than an air cooled system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wordbiker
    Are you planning to cool anything other than the CPU, and if one wanted to do that, how would you place the cooling blocks in order? : peace2:
    At the moment, I'm only going to cool my cpu, mainly due to budget constraints. However, I may cool my videocard and possible mobo chipset if I feel the need/have enough money/just want to. If I was to cool my videocard and/or mobo chipset I would put the waterblocks in this order:
    CPU --> VGU --> Mobo Chipset
    This is because we want the cpu to recieve the best cooling, and thus, the coolest water. Then the water visits the next hottest heat source, and so on.

    Phew. That was a long one :o

    Andy out.

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    Thanks for the detailed rundown Andy :thumb: :cheers:
    I've already measured a case I have already, and it does look like it'd all fit....even with a reservoir, as I've seen some that'd fit into a spare bay. Maybe you've seen it, but it's the upside down Inwin case I did with all the UV lights and fans. I added a bunch of fans, basically, all I could fit including one 120mm with room to spare for a radiator. It's a nice size for a LAN rig....even has a handle and I got a lot of compliments on it at my first LAN, but I had troubles with the onboard ethernet, so I'm considering a new mobo and processor entirely. The only mATX mobos I can find aren't really made for overclocking (no thermal shutdown features, voltage or multi options) so really this would be all for fixing the cooling problems inherent in the case and making it quieter. The visual appeal would be nice too ;) I kind of have a habit of trying to cram everything I can into the smallest possible space, and I've gotten pretty good at it, so I may do it as an Athlon64 system.....when I can afford one :cry:
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    Another advantage of Inline is that once it is properly bled it is unlikely that new air bubbles will appear. If you use a reservoir the suction of the pump could create a vortex which would suck bubbles into the pump.
    The order of components doesn't affect the temp too much as long as you use the CPU as the first block. If you measure the water temp before the pump and the temp after the rad the temp change will be 1 degree max.
    Also the amount of the coolant doesn't affect the temperature (much), but the temp of a larger volume takes longer to level out. Just imagine a pan of water on the furnace. If you use the same heatsource you will be able to boil both 1 litre and 10 litres. Off course it will take longer for 10 litres to boil but the result is the same. Unless you have a big copper radiatior with heatsinks on the outside and a fan blowing over them, but that is more like a radiator than reservoir.
    Oh and it is no problem to use 3 waterblocks on 1 radiator. Just don't use one of those micro things, but a proper copper one with 1 or 2 120mm fans.
    Is that it? mmmm... Oh, as for results; If you just use 1 waterblock and a good radiator you should be able to keep the temperature 10 degrees above ambient. Unless you're overclocking big time off course
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    piccies are comming up now :)

    Roughly how it should look

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    Pump with the grill?

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    ...or without?

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    CPU waterblock arrangement

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    That may not be the best place for the radiator, because you're going to be blowing all the warm air into the case.

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