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    Alright well i don't no what to do at the moment, it's either get a new HSF or put a blowhole in my case, and my dad mentioned something about "if we get a little bit more money sometime soon, I'll get you a new computer and give your current one to your sis" so i'm thinking the new HSF would be the way to go...
    your thoughts? The Spark 7+ is looking mighty tasty... not sure if its the Xaser one thought... does anyone have any comparison links between the Spark 7+ or non + and the Volcano 7 +?

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    Originally posted by The Evolved One another question for ya's... is it possible to get a 120mm holesaw? because i think the biggest size i saw when i last looked was about 85mm.:confused:
    For 120mm holes, I use a nibbler as it's a lot cheaper than a 4-1/2" holesaw which will require a pilot bit, a drill capable of driving a 1/2" shank, proper setup and clamping, and a fair bit of luck...all to get only one size of hole. With a simple compass, I can draw any size hole at all, even odd shapes, cut it out and just clean it up with a file and emery paper. You will have to clean up a hole made with a holesaw just the same, and you also risk distorting the sheetmetal on thinner cases which will show up bigtime with darker glossy finishes. I know that most folks hate nibblers as they only remove about 1/16"X1/4" (1.5mmX6.5mm)at a time, but I've found that it does a very consistent cut with minimal distortion and risk of "slipping", and with no noise , dust or sparks. You will need a drill to start the cut, and masking will help to prevent marring the surface finish.
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    Well i have 3 options for where i can put my money but im pretty stumped... :shrug: here goes...
    Option 1
    Nibbling Tool $22(AUS)
    120mm Sunon $21

    Couple of Fan Connectors $8-$10
    Total price $51-53

    Option 2
    Spark 7+ $34.10 (or the Volcano 7+ for 39.60, still not sure.... which one cools better?)
    Fan connectors $5-6
    Arctic Silver 3 $11
    Total Price $50.10-56.60

    Option 3
    Spend my money elsewhere....
    Total Price $0.00 :rolleyes:

    Your input/feedback/suggestions REALLY wanted

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    Well, overall, it depends on what your main cooling problem is. Is it your case that needs better cooling? Or does your CPU need better cooling? #'s would help here. You have a pretty cool running system, that GF2 doesnt put out alot of heat, and neither does that RAM. The 120mm intake fan would def hot, but if your temps arent really high, why bother? Also, oyu have a steel case, steel is a hardened metal, so that nibbler wont do a thing. When I put in an 80mm (highest I could go w/o case strength issues) in my Dell, the Dell has a 1mm (at least) steel case in side a plastic covering. The only thing that could really get through it is my jig saw, so I ended up using that. I marked the hole, cut from the center to the edge making triangle sized pieces, and then bended them back inside the case. Steel is just really tough to work with :( . But, like I said, if your #'s are fine, dont bother unless you get new parts or something else that puts out more heat. My :2cents: , : peace2: Mista K6
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    Mista K6,
    I've used the nibbler plenty of times on steel cases. Actually, predominantly on steel cases and have had no problems whatsoever, although it does take some patience. Perhaps in your case the steel added to the thickness of the plastic would prevent a nibbler from working as the jaw may not open enough to "nibble" a bite. I'd have to see it. Also, there is NO case out there that is hardened steel. Every one I've ever dealt with is standard mild sheet steel, and cuts easily with the right tools and blades. Not meaning to pick on ya bro, just making a correction. : peace2: :cheers:
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    I've used a nibbler on 1.2mm steel w/o a prob but I found it very slow and my hand hurt afterwards which is why I went to holesaws (jigsaws work well to with the right blades but are better suited for cuttin' windows).

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    Oh, and Evolved,
    I'd spend the dough on the heatsink. :thumb:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggo
    I've used a nibbler on 1.2mm steel w/o a prob but I found it very slow and my hand hurt afterwards which is why I went to holesaws (jigsaws work well to with the right blades but are better suited for cuttin' windows).
    Yeah, I can understand that. I have to go slow and take breaks, but the results are worth it. Sometimes slower is better. I also use holesaws when appropriate, but, for example: On my HTPC case I had to make certain cuts that were in very fragile sections of the case. I tried the jigsaw and it deformed the metal. Tried the rotary tool and couldn't reach where I wanted to without putting it into a bind, or it would just flare the metal or deform it with heat. All I'm saying is...sometimes that nibbler is just the right tool, and it WILL work for cutting odd-sized holes with a lot less tool investment than the holesaw. As many computers as go through your shop Wiggo, I don't blame you one bit for investing in the power equipment. I have seen a power nibbler, and I'll get one when I can afford it, and/or justify it with a volume of work.
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    No worries, but I can imagine that your hand would be quite sore after using it. I just measured and the steel on my case is 1.2mm. My jigsaw cut through it well, but I ended up bending back to get a smooth edge. THe whole thing took me about 5-10min, but it probably doesnt look as nice as with the nibbler. But wow, that's gotta take a long time :wow: .
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    I cut holes in cases all the time. Usually 92mm as my supplier gives me the best price on them compared to any other size. I first cover the area with masking tape, the use a protractor to mark the circle. Reinforced cutting wheel on the dremel takes about 3 minutes to get the rough hole. Then a stone for 2 minutes to clean it up, then get rid of the tape. Never had a complaint yet.
    note.. 1 wheel usually cuts 2-3 holes on average. Do not forget to 100% remove any metal shavings. While you are at it, it would be smart to cut out those stamped grilles for the other fans. They restrict most airflow.
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