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Thread: Watercooling for dummies?




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    Im a hardcore wannabe. I got the latest hardware, configured in a way that would brainmelt any newbie, im using silver compound, extra fans inside the tower, replaced the motherboard fan with a crystal orb, opened up the PSU to replace the fan, overclocked the graphiccscard (but not the cpu), always grab the best motherboard I can get etc.

    But there is one thing that is missing in my life.
    I have often dreamt about cooling my computers with water rather than the *very noisy* Swiftech cooler. Unfortunate, it is difficult to even buy the components if you dont know what you should get.

    What I know is that I need a refrigerator, a pump, two cooling blocks (CPU/GPU), but I have no idea of what hoses I need, and what labels I should look for.

    Is there anyone that a) can give me a "dummies" list of:
    1. Required components,
    2. Their real names (I dont think I should search for "Refrigerator" in a net-store product list)
    3. Their physical location inside the tower

    or b) point me to a website that goes through this in a "for absolute beginners" manner?

    Best Regards
    JemyM

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    Well you can find a whole bunch of articles about water cooling and parts here: http://www.overclockers.com/topiclist/index31.asp#WATER COOLING not really setup for complete beginners but there are some good articles there.
    New Sig soon, old one was way outdated.

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    Here's another to check out, http://www.procooling.com/ ;)


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    Ok I went to www.xoxide.com to look for some good water cooling. If you have an AMD go here: http://www.xoxide.com/inwatcoolkit1.html . If you have a P4 go here: http://www.xoxide.com/inwatcoolkit2.html . Now I am sure these are not the best prices around but water cooling is pretty expensive anyway. Now if you want to have water cooling for your HDD and/or Graphics card go to the bottom of that page and you can add it (around $50 per add on). There are specially designed cases for water cooling that are pretty expensive but make it easier to setup. Now what are your system specs?
    New Sig soon, old one was way outdated.

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    Aaah ok here we go. http://www.xoxide.com/watcoolcas.html are some cases built for water cooling. You can add all of your options and get pretty much everything on one page. Most if not all is pretty good quality water cooling. Remember when you setup your water cooling system let it run a couple days BEFORE attatching the cooling parts to your hard ware. Wouldnt want it to leak all over your beautiful stuff now would we?
    New Sig soon, old one was way outdated.

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    I gess I was a bit quick to list my specs... Anyway, they are in the end of this message.

    I remember http://www.overclockers.com, I think I have been there before about a year ago. It was that site that got me to add an extra bunch of fans to my old machine (The motherboard/Tower+CPU are now in my GF's machine).

    Specs:
    Windows XP
    Chieftec Dragon Tower (midi)
    Epox 8k5a2+
    Athlon 2100+
    GeForce 3 Ti500
    512mb pc2700
    Soundblaster Audigy Platinum XP
    Nokia 446x Pro 19"
    Western Digital 7200rpm 120gb ATA100
    Western Digital 7200rpm 80gb ATA100 (SE)
    Maxtor 5400rpm 30gb ATA66
    IBM 5400rpm 10gb ATA33
    Plextor x24 Burner
    Pioneer DVD Reader x40 (Never used DVD capatibilities)

    The real bottleneck is the graphiccard at the moment. Wont replace it until NV30 is out thou.

    Also planned to cool my gf's set:
    Windows XP
    CanNotRememberName Miditower
    Asus KT133A
    Athlon 1200Mhz
    GeForce 2 MX400
    512mb pc133
    Soundblaster PCI 128
    Hyundai ImageQuest Q910
    Western Digital 7200rpm 80gb ATA100 (SE)
    NoName CD Reader x52

    Best Regards
    JemyM

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    I wouldnt say "...I got the latest hardware..." but the links I provided should give you an idea of what you need to look for. If you don't buy there complete kit you can find each part in it and buy them seperately from other sites. Save yourself money but will be more of a hassle...
    New Sig soon, old one was way outdated.

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    pga1234
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    A month old then. :)

    Remember that most Athlon's over 2200+ was released during the latest month. So was 400Mhz DDR and KT400.

    A month ago, when I bought the motherboard/cpu, Epox 8k5a2+ with 333Mhz ruled. 2200+ was just released in sweden and costed +33% compared with 2100+. A bit to much to pay for just 80Mhz...

    Part from that, as I said, its the gfx board that bothers me. :)

    Best Regards
    JemyM

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    Aaah ok makes more sense now. The problem is that you will have to upgrade at least every 3 months to keep up to date...
    New Sig soon, old one was way outdated.

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    My latest three CPU upgrades have been 2 years between. But they have always been an dissapointment. It seems like CPU speed doesnt matter for games anymore, and what counts is simply the speed of the graphiccard.

    Using p2 350Mhz I could squeeze about 30fps (q3) in 1600x1200 using a GF256DDR. Upgrading my CPU to 1000Mhz gave me a rise to 40fps, a 25% increase for 650 extra mhz.

    Then, when I upgraded to GF3Ti500 I reached over 90fps, wich is an increase of over 100%.

    Ofcourse, windows is much smoother at 1000Mhz than 350Mhz, but I cant feel much difference between my (2100+) and my gf's (1200Mhz) computer when using windows.

    The only reason for me to go for faster CPU's today is for video compression, and that something I do pretty often. Next up for me is a new gfx card. And watercooling, but thats just for fun.

    Best Regards
    JemyM

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