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Thread: NEW - Self contained CPU Water Cooler - NO HOSES




  1. #21
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    SWEET sounds like its a good buy sp far. Can't wait for the rest of the info and pics. This thing might avtually be worthwhile me thinks...... Im too cheap for regular water cooling

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    Sorry for the delay. Here goes..After running the hsf by itself for about 4 hours with no noticeable problems, I decided it was time to install it. Installation couldn't have been easier. The kit comes with all mounting hardware needed. I supplied the AS3. The instructions say to remove the bottom half of the stock mounting from the motherboard, but after looking closer at the included kit, I noticed that I could use my existing one. This hsf uses four spring loaded clips to mount it to the existing lower half mounting. There are two 3-pin connectors, one for the fan and one for the pump. I plugged the fan into my motherboard and the pump into the psu using a 3 to 4 pin adapter. I have had this water hsf running for 1 1/2 days now and here are my results:

    CPU at stock speed of 2533 with vcore at 1.5
    Idle temps:

    Volcano 7+ = 33c
    Water-X HSF = 33c

    Running SETI 30 minutes:

    Volcano 7+ = 47c - 48c
    Water-X HSF = 45c - 47c

    Running Sandra burn-in 15 minutes:

    Volcano 7+ = 48c - 51c
    Water-X HSF = 47c - 49c
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    CPU OC'd from 2533 to 3004 with vcore at 1.625
    Idle:
    Volcano 7+ = 45c
    Water-X HSF = PC wouldn't run at this speed - too hot

    Running SETI 15 minutes:

    Volcano 7+ = 57c
    Water-X HSF = N/A

    Running Sandra Burn-in 10 minutes:

    Volcano 7+ = 57c
    Water-X HSF = N/A


    Overall the Water-X performed well at first, slightly beating out the Volcano 7+, but I was not able to OC the CPU nearly as high as with the Volcano 7+. And for $35 more than the V7+ it just isn't worth it. BTW, the fan on the Water-X is running 6300 - 6400rpm's which makes for a lot of noise. I also think the fan cools the aluminum heatsink more than the coolant does. I am not impressed at all. Oh, well, I'll just put my V7+ back on and be happy again.
    <h6><font color=black>P4 2.53Mhz cooled by <a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/orbs/dragon478s.htm" target="_blank"><font color=green>TT P4 Dragon HSF</font></a>
    Asus P4PE 533Mhz fsb board w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> Tiger Orb chipset HSF
    Samsung 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Cas 2.5
    WD 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    Seagate 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    VisionTek G4 Ti4600 w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> G4 Copper VGA HSF & RAMsinks
    Using nVidia 42.68 Dets w/DX 9
    Samsung 16x DVD
    Lite-On 40X12X48 CD-RW
    Creative SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer
    Creative Inspire 5.1 Speakers
    <font color=red>Tt</font color> 420 watt PSU w/dual fans
    Viewsonic G810 21" CRT
    WinXP Pro Corp w/SP-1

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    Somehow I figured that was goin' to happen. : peace2:

    I'll stick with my 7+'s still. :D


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    grrrr gotta stick with regular cooling.....

    anyway why are you guys running volcano 7+'s? Aren't the volcano 9's or even higher ones (if there are) better?
    Oh and another quick question is the volcano 7 loud?

    sorry about the off topic questions but only one more. I see that your power supply has a fan blowing down into the case right by the processor.... Doesn't that give the processor a lot more heat? Ive been wondering that since ive goten my new 500 watt and i was a little worried that it might get to hot for the processor.

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    This is a Volcano 7 which as ya see is an aluminium/copper HSF with a very difficult 2 point clip due to the 80mm fan on it. Now the Volcano 9 is an update to the 7 with a change of colour, equally difficult 6 point clip and a screamin' SMART CASE FAN II on top. The Volcano 7+ is all copper so it can dissapate heat much quicker than the previous alloy/Cu hybrid but the Volcano 11 is the update to the 7+ but out of all 4 the 7+ is the easiest on the ears IMO. :devil win
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    The fan you see on my PSU in sucking air in and there's one exhaust fan on the rear of the PSU. This helps suck air away from the CPU. I agree with Wiggo, the Volcano 7+ is the best all around air cooled solution at the moment. Also, with the fan on low speed, it's very quiet. I think now I will mod my case for some better air flow.
    <h6><font color=black>P4 2.53Mhz cooled by <a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/orbs/dragon478s.htm" target="_blank"><font color=green>TT P4 Dragon HSF</font></a>
    Asus P4PE 533Mhz fsb board w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> Tiger Orb chipset HSF
    Samsung 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Cas 2.5
    WD 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    Seagate 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    VisionTek G4 Ti4600 w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> G4 Copper VGA HSF & RAMsinks
    Using nVidia 42.68 Dets w/DX 9
    Samsung 16x DVD
    Lite-On 40X12X48 CD-RW
    Creative SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer
    Creative Inspire 5.1 Speakers
    <font color=red>Tt</font color> 420 watt PSU w/dual fans
    Viewsonic G810 21" CRT
    WinXP Pro Corp w/SP-1

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    Well, I jumped the gun a little bit. I overlooked one thing that I often tell people. Artic Silver 3 takes a few weeks to set into the heatsink. It's been a few more days since I posted the review of the WaterX. I decided to leave it in for a while instead of putting my V7+ back in. My temps are still dropping. Now my idle temp with the WaterX is 30c. Last night I OC'd my 2533 up to 2849 which I couldn't do a couple of days ago with the WaterX. Now it seems as though this HSF is starting to work better. I will continue to use this HSF and post more stats over the next few weeks. I am really kinda starting to like this thing.
    <h6><font color=black>P4 2.53Mhz cooled by <a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/orbs/dragon478s.htm" target="_blank"><font color=green>TT P4 Dragon HSF</font></a>
    Asus P4PE 533Mhz fsb board w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> Tiger Orb chipset HSF
    Samsung 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Cas 2.5
    WD 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    Seagate 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    VisionTek G4 Ti4600 w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> G4 Copper VGA HSF & RAMsinks
    Using nVidia 42.68 Dets w/DX 9
    Samsung 16x DVD
    Lite-On 40X12X48 CD-RW
    Creative SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer
    Creative Inspire 5.1 Speakers
    <font color=red>Tt</font color> 420 watt PSU w/dual fans
    Viewsonic G810 21" CRT
    WinXP Pro Corp w/SP-1

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    What about the heat not leaving the case before it goes through the rad like it does on a more traditional liquid cooled setup with an external rad? I cant see it being very efficient with it all in one spot, not to mention the weight on the board. And its not expandable.
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    Well, the water pump failed. I just got done sending it back. This thing looks pretty cool and has a great idea to it, but it needs to go back to the drawing board. After roughly 2 weeks of running the WaterX, I found that my CPU temp did drop down to 32c, but that's the temp that my Volcano 7+ was when idle. This is nothing more than a fancy HSF with a $60 price tag. So I started to modify my Volcano 7+ for better cooling and I ended up making it worse. No big deal, I just installed my old TT P4 Dragon and my temps are the same, 32c at idle. I can't get it to go lower without opening my window and letting the cold air in. So, I will leave this thread saying, I'm sticking with ThermalTake cooling.
    <h6><font color=black>P4 2.53Mhz cooled by <a href="http://www.thermaltake.com/products/orbs/dragon478s.htm" target="_blank"><font color=green>TT P4 Dragon HSF</font></a>
    Asus P4PE 533Mhz fsb board w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> Tiger Orb chipset HSF
    Samsung 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Cas 2.5
    WD 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    Seagate 40GB 7200rpm HDD
    VisionTek G4 Ti4600 w/<font color=red>Tt</font color> G4 Copper VGA HSF & RAMsinks
    Using nVidia 42.68 Dets w/DX 9
    Samsung 16x DVD
    Lite-On 40X12X48 CD-RW
    Creative SB Live 5.1 X-Gamer
    Creative Inspire 5.1 Speakers
    <font color=red>Tt</font color> 420 watt PSU w/dual fans
    Viewsonic G810 21" CRT
    WinXP Pro Corp w/SP-1

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