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    Ironically Minibubba that's the whole point. Anyone who's ever seen, inflicted real violence on someone else (with guns, fists, knives, etc.) would know it's nothing like the movies or a game.

    My point is that these games and movies make it all seem so easy, so glamorous, so tempting to use a gun or bat on someone you hate or who makes you angry. Since these kids have no experience of it other than what they see on TV, cinema and in games, they assume it's easy to do, and that it's logical to react with violence in a confrontation.

    That's not the only factor of course. Many other psychological issues need to come together for someone to go that far, but I think it is very important to remind kids that violent games do not represent reality - despite some games claiming to be ultra-realistic, and despite movies, music and TV showing it to be a glamorous and cool thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minibubba
    utter bs. anyone that has ever fired a real weapon knows FPS are nothing like the real thing.
    I agree, I mean sitting and moving a mouse and a picking on a keyboard wtf they have no idea.. :rolleyes2

    But it is something wrong with em' kids today and the way they behave with all the disrespect and ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PersianImmortal
    My point is that these games and movies make it all seem so easy, so glamorous, so tempting to use a gun or bat on someone you hate or who makes you angry. Since these kids have no experience of it other than what they see on TV, cinema and in games, they assume it's easy to do, and that it's logical to react with violence in a confrontation.

    That's not the only factor of course. Many other psychological issues need to come together for someone to go that far, but I think it is very important to remind kids that violent games do not represent reality - despite some games claiming to be ultra-realistic, and despite movies, music and TV showing it to be a glamorous and cool thing to do.
    I couldn't agree more, although I think viloent games, movies, and TV are only a very small piece of the puzzle. It frustrates me to see the media wanting to place the blame for society's problems on certain aspects of the entertainment industry. The real problem is far deeper than that, but I would rather not get into a philosophical debate here.

    I've been a huge movie buff and gamer for years and violence is not how I reslove things, neither is it for any other gamers I know. I'd venture say the vast majority of gamers are the same way. The only times I have ever seen it become a problem is when the person already has serious psychological issues and (dare I say it...) bad parenting.
    I've gone too far and need to move on!

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    Originally posted by minibubba
    I couldn't agree more, although I think viloent games, movies, and TV are only a very small piece of the puzzle. It frustrates me to see the media wanting to place the blame for society's problems on certain aspects of the entertainment industry. The real problem is far deeper than that, but I would rather not get into a philosophical debate here.

    I've been a huge movie buff and gamer for years and violence is not how I reslove things, neither is it for any other gamers I know. I'd venture say the vast majority of gamers are the same way. The only times I have ever seen it become a problem is when the person already has serious psychological issues [b]and (dare I say it...) bad parenting.
    In school we just finished up news projects, and my story was over Video Game Violence, and that was one of my main reasons in the issues that make the video games seem so bad, when a tiny fraction of the gamers have had problems, many other issues have been involved. But as the media always does and always will do, they blow things up to be so much bigger than they really are.
    Personally, I remember this quote, "Life is not a Video Game", and it's true. If someone cannot tell the difference, they need to either get some mental help, or just drop it and quit playing them, and seek another form of entertainment.
    This incident was just some people getting way too involved in a game, and obviously the person who held the gun has some other serious psychological problems, and shouldn't be playing a game like that, obviously. After all, it's all for the fun of the game and spirit of competition, sure winning is great, it always has been, but winning isn't what matters, all that matters is that you have a good time.

    Thats just my view on things, I hope this doesn't happen again, as things could flare up over Video Game Violence pretty nastily.

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    All the same things were said about Dungeons and Dragons back when I was in High School....and that game was played on PAPER! I can't say it ever made me want to go on a mad paper-cutting spree...
    Disturbed individuals are disturbed individuals. They need professional help, not lawyers who in the attempt to get them off from their serious crimes blaming everything and anything on media and entertainment. I also agree that the parents are truly responsible, and should take more responsibility, and a more active part in their children's lives. I am 37 and have a teenage son. I'm involved in organizing LAN gaming with our local teen center, and I see it as a healthy outlet for the aggressive and competitive tendencies we all have as human beings. So far, we have had no "extracurricular" arguments over the games, and if there were, I and the other adults would be there playing
    an active part in defusing the situation, and if necessary getting help to the troubled teen. Many of the parents stop by and check in on us, always encouraging and helpful, and obviously involved in what their child is exposed to. I highly encourage parents to play WITH their children, rather than use media and entertainment as a babysitter to replace active parenting. : peace2:
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