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    Default Re: GA-P35C-DS3R problems

    I see in my manual and on my actual board 2 bios chips so they are just telling you that so you will quit asking.

    There is no hidden partition or backup bios file on my drive or I would be able to see it in several DOS utility's

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    Default Re: GA-P35C-DS3R problems

    Just a note about memory for the GA-P35C-DS3R, Gigabyte tech support has recommended I try one of the kits on this page:

    http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...l=GA-P35C-DS3R

    Note none of the kits go over 1.8v.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a573573 View Post
    I see in my manual and on my actual board 2 bios chips so they are just telling you that so you will quit asking.

    There is no hidden partition or backup bios file on my drive or I would be able to see it in several DOS utility's
    Too bad. For the record here's what Gigabyte says:

    Answer : Virtual dual bios uses this method to recover it

    Question: Is this GIGABYTE Xpress BIOS Rescue™ = Virtual DualBIOS ?

    Answer : It is automatic which will write to the primary hdd
    GIGABYTE Xpress BIOS Rescue™ is a tool that automatically recovers damaged BIOSes (plural for BIOS) to their original state. How it works is that an ISO file or image file of the BIOS is stored in a hidden file on the hard drive automatically each time your system boots. This copy is able to replace a corrupted BIOS automatically due to software applications or viruses without the need for CD or Floppy support. As the process is fully automated, there is no need to fix or change the BIOS through a command prompt. This helps to ensure your BIOS are functioning correctly at all times.

    Question : Does this happen automatically?

    Which hard drive does it pick?

    Does Xpress BIOS Recover = Virtual DualBIOS?
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    I believe if that were true there would be far less customers getting bricked boards. They could be correct, but I highly dont think so, and if they are....They need to better fix this feature so less boards die and explain this to users better so they can ensure that they have activated/installed this option.

    Because all in all, I dont see it on my board AT ALL, and when choosing a BIOS location on my HDD to flash I can only see the BIOS's That I stick on a USB disk and not my actual HD. I believe if the above were true you should be able to choose a disk to flash from while in qflash. And actually having said that, the bios backup that they refer to as being made automatically would surely have to be on a FAT or FAT32 partition, which is for sure not on any of my disks, and therefore not a automatic thing done by the bios.

    Now I cant say for sure if it would actually do it on its own provided I did have a FAT/FAT32 partition on one of my disks, but I can assure you I am about to find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by a573573 View Post
    And actually having said that, the bios backup that they refer to as being made automatically would surely have to be on a FAT or FAT32 partition, which is for sure not on any of my disks, and therefore not a automatic thing done by the bios.
    So your BIOS has not created a tiny hidden partition somewhere? I think it is possible it could create it independently of whatever partition types you set up. Which utilities do you use to check? I have only tried GParted Live CD (this looks really good too http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page). There was some unallocated space behind my system drive, but I don't think it was anything. But, I read maybe some rootkits can hide in those spaces, so why not BIOS? However, without a disk sector viewer, one can't be sure. But I don't think BIOS would be limited to FAT32 or even need to use disk formatting, just a partition block. Interesting anyway.


    More Q&A with me and Gigabyte, I love to query them (start to read from bottom going up):

    Answer: We are uncertain which 3rd party utility can view it, you can try it
    Do not make any changes or modification if you are able to locate it.

    Question : Should I be able to see the hidden partition with the Gparted Live CD?
    Previously on the ggts channel:

    Question : Please name a few that will do this.

    Answer : You will not be able to locate it unless you use some sort of 3rd party software which can locate hidden partition

    Question : Sometimes I repartition, change partitions to work with BSD or Linux.

    Where EXACTLY is it stored?

    I would like to use a DISK SECTOR VIEWER to look at it.

    I am curious. What is it's signature, where is it?

    Answer : It is automated where it will auto back up to an hdden partiton on your hdd. You do not need to do anything or make any chances.

    Question : What is a software tool I can use to see where this BIOS image is on HDD?
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    I have used Everytool on Hirens bootcd, which is a ton of tools, also Have used DigiWIZ MiniPE which has a ton more!

    Nothing is there, at all. Other then the FULL partitions I have made. I bet that small area your are seeing is the 8MB XP leaves and sometimes sticks in MBR. I have none of that on my disks as I deleted it and installed MBR on my main disk. All I can see is my FULL partitions I made with no space before or after remaining or used.

    And since It would need to be a FAT type I would for sure see it. I bet the next time you tell them this they tell you well in that case (My case) that users "Hidden" backup is somehow mysteriously stored in my NFTS partitions.

    If any of that were true there would not be so many dead boards due to incorrect overclocks and bad flashes. I do think the DQ6 boards may have this feature though, I seen someone talking about using ExpressBIOS backup app we talked about before

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    I still don't see why the partition would have to be FAT32 or any other type, it could be proprietary with just the BIOS image.

    But I believe you that there is nothing there.

    Check out "Quad BIOS" http://www.giga-byte.com/FileList/Ne...s_work_dq6.htm

    It actually uses the CD-ROM, which is cool.

    This line from that page is funny:

    "Backup BIOS also find himself being destroyed"

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    Default Re: GA-P35C-DS3R problems

    Ohh, well I just assumed it needed to be FAT or FAT32 because of the way it must be for a USB and such.

    Well either way, no hidden partitions on my disks, and no Bios files other then a folder I have with several I put in there.

    I think you need to tell the GA reps you are speaking with to just stop playing around, and send you a link to the BIOS application we want to use! You know they have it and could easily give us a link anytime

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    OK, they said Winhex.

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    Default Re: GA-P35C-DS3R problems

    I went ahead and pulled my rev. 1.1 board today and replaced it with an ABit IP35-E I got from Newegg for $60 after rebate. Going to RMA the Gigabte board, see what I get back, but I'm pretty happy with the ABit board so far, OC'd my e8400 to 3.8Ghz so far, and it doesn't loose all my bios settings when I reboot when the FSB is over 400Mhz like the Gigabyte board did.

    Hopefully Gigabyte can release a bios update that resolves a lot of these problems, it would be a great board if it wasn't for the issues that plague it, at least the rev. 1.1 version.

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