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    Default New to Intel

    Hello all, my first post.
    A couple questions if I may.
    1. How come in bios 7 I have Hyperthreading in Advanced Features but not in bios 8 or 9? Has it been disabled in the 2 latest releases, and does it matter?

    2.How can I stop my CPU from slowing down when no apps are running and keep it clocked at high speeds all the time? It idles back to 2.0 all the time, then with Cpuz and an app running it bounces back and forth between 2.0 and 3.0

    3.After OCing AMD,s all these years I have to say I am baffled as to OC settings for Intel. Does anyone have some basic OC settings I could try and start bumping up from there?

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: New to Intel

    Quote Originally Posted by Bopster View Post
    1. How come in bios 7 I have Hyperthreading in Advanced Features but not in bios 8 or 9? Has it been disabled in the 2 latest releases, and does it matter?
    Hyperthreading is an old technology that the newer Core2 Duo/Quad's do not use. It was in there in F7, however was disabled. Enabling it doesn't do anything which you can tell by looking at Windows Task manager and looking at how many CPU utilization boxes are there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bopster View Post
    2.How can I stop my CPU from slowing down when no apps are running and keep it clocked at high speeds all the time? It idles back to 2.0 all the time, then with Cpuz and an app running it bounces back and forth between 2.0 and 3.0
    First thing you have to ask is why would you want it running full throttle all the time. Those power saving features usually cut back on your home power usage quite a bite. Even overclockers turn some of them back on (if they can) after they get a stable overclock so it's not running max all the time. In answer to your question though, here is what I disable before overclocking to assure it doesn't throttle back:

    - CPU Halt (C16)
    - CPU Therm Mon (TM2)
    - CPU Eist
    - Virtualization
    - CIA2


    Quote Originally Posted by Bopster View Post
    3.After OCing AMD,s all these years I have to say I am baffled as to OC settings for Intel. Does anyone have some basic OC settings I could try and start bumping up from there?
    I run a Q6600 so my settings wouldn't be relevant. I would suggest looking around the overclock.net forums. They are excellent.

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    Default Re: New to Intel

    Thank you for the info sir.

    Now that you made a good point about power usage.
    What would I turn back on to enable just that function out of the things you suggested I turn off?
    - CPU Halt (C16)
    - CPU Therm Mon (TM2)
    - CPU Eist
    - Virtualization
    - CIA2


    Also I dont see a 1:1 multiplier for the memory. I have mine @ 2.4 to get 3.6 with memory at 1000 (500x2)

    Thanks again, you helped get me on the right path.
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    Default Re: New to Intel

    My results so far, with a lil help from my friends
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    Sapphire HD6950 Crossfire
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    Default Re: New to Intel

    damn...you are running 1.425V cpu to get 3.6?...
    i get 3.52 on a E6750 with stock volts (1.275!)
    just curious if thats really necessary ;)

    also i am running both C1E and EIST without any performance problems
    some website ran full testing on both of those settings and found no performance degradation
    in fact i run that CIA2 feature at 'racing' to go from 2.2Ghz idle to 3.0 to 3.52 under full load...no problems whatsoever
    good luck :)
    Last edited by f-town; 12-10-2007 at 01:33 PM.
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    Default Re: New to Intel

    Not everyone is blessed with good bins. I, for one, also require high voltage if I even want to think about booting @ 3.6GHz. If your chip isn't voltage hungry, consider yourself lucky and call it a day.
    E6750 @ 3.72GHz - 1.5v in BIOS (1.456v Actual/1.440v Load) | Gigabyte P35-DS3R Revision 1.0, F9 BIOS | 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-800 @ 1165MHz 5-5-4-10 (4:5, +0.3v = 2.11v) | XFX 7950GT (700MHz Core/805 MHz Memory) | Mushkin 550W RailFusion PS | Zalman CNPS9700 | 2x74GB Raptors Striped | Antec SX1040BII Black Performance Series II SOHO | 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931B + 19" Sony SDM-S94 | Vista Ultimate 32

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    Default Re: New to Intel

    I was able to back the cpu voltage off, thank you
    I started with it high beacuse of what I had read in reviews.
    Mem is at 5-5-5-15 2T - 5:6 Divider - 2.0 volts (down from 2.2 initally)
    All other voltages bumped 0.10
    Running cool and stable as a rock. Even mem heat spreaders only slightly warm.

    Thanks all - TT rocks

    Bop
    Attached Images Attached Images New to Intel-oc-jpg 
    Intel Core2Duo E6850('Conroe') @ 3.6
    Asus P5E x38 Rev 1.03 1201 SSD Mod bios
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
    OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-8800 4GB @1080mhz
    150GB WD Raptor 10,000RPM x2 Raid0
    300GB Maxtor
    640GB WD x2
    Sapphire HD6950 Crossfire
    E-MU E-DSP Audio Processor 1616m
    PC Power & Cooling 750 Quad PSU
    Antec SX830 Modded
    W7 Pro 64bit
    Viewsonic VX2255wmb x2

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    Default Re: New to Intel

    cool...looks like a nice clock for that voltage
    also keep in mind that these boards seem to overvolt on RAM
    i.e. the stock 1.85 = 2.0volts
    +.1 = 2.1 etc

    best of luck :)
    Intel Core2Duo E6750 @ 3.52Ghz ('Conroe') - stock voltage!
    Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 rev. 2.0
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
    Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Desktop Memory - Newegg 'Lanfest' edition
    (running 5:6 at 527mhz on stock voltage +.05)
    74G WD Raptor 10,000RPM
    BFG 8800GTX OC
    M-Audio Revolution 5.1
    Seasonic S12 600W PSU
    Intel® PRO/1000 PT Gigabit lan

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    Default Re: New to Intel

    Quote Originally Posted by Bopster View Post
    I was able to back the cpu voltage off, thank you
    I started with it high beacuse of what I had read in reviews.
    Mem is at 5-5-5-15 2T - 5:6 Divider - 2.0 volts (down from 2.2 initally)
    All other voltages bumped 0.10
    Running cool and stable as a rock. Even mem heat spreaders only slightly warm.

    Thanks all - TT rocks

    Bop
    If I were you I'd change the timings to 5-5-5-10. 5-5-5-15 is loose for those speeds. Once you verify 5-5-5-10 works (or doesn't), you may want to play with the "Refresh to ACT Delay" RAM setting in your BIOS. I've found that lowering it from 42 (default for me) to 35 has decreased latency in Sandra and Everest. Definitely a nice clock for that voltage...
    E6750 @ 3.72GHz - 1.5v in BIOS (1.456v Actual/1.440v Load) | Gigabyte P35-DS3R Revision 1.0, F9 BIOS | 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2-800 @ 1165MHz 5-5-4-10 (4:5, +0.3v = 2.11v) | XFX 7950GT (700MHz Core/805 MHz Memory) | Mushkin 550W RailFusion PS | Zalman CNPS9700 | 2x74GB Raptors Striped | Antec SX1040BII Black Performance Series II SOHO | 19" Samsung SyncMaster 931B + 19" Sony SDM-S94 | Vista Ultimate 32

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    Default Re: New to Intel

    yes but you are running 1:1 at lower clockspeeds...
    we are both running 5:6 at 3.5Ghz+... 5-5-5-15 is fairly standard for this without heavy voltage on the ram
    i will check out that other ram setting tho...sounds interesting

    note: i checked it out...didnt provide much of an increase in memory performance or latency
    a thing to remember with these P35 boards is that tight memory timings dont provide much of a performance increase in this case
    now if they could get P35 to run at 1T, that would be a different story, but i wouldnt hold my breath on that one ;)
    Last edited by f-town; 12-11-2007 at 09:02 PM.
    Intel Core2Duo E6750 @ 3.52Ghz ('Conroe') - stock voltage!
    Gigabyte GA-P35-DS4 rev. 2.0
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
    Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Desktop Memory - Newegg 'Lanfest' edition
    (running 5:6 at 527mhz on stock voltage +.05)
    74G WD Raptor 10,000RPM
    BFG 8800GTX OC
    M-Audio Revolution 5.1
    Seasonic S12 600W PSU
    Intel® PRO/1000 PT Gigabit lan

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