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    Sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I wanted to know if I hit print screen if it would still hold the image when i log onto windows. i have seen pictures of bios screens and i figured it was something easy or just a camara shot.
    My wife purchased a Asus 4870 X 2 because my 3870 started acting up. I have the Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R motherboard with 4 gigs of OZC ATI certified PC2 800 ram, Intel Q6600 Quad core chip with G0 stepping, Antec quttro true power 1000watt PSU, Antec 900 case with 4 120mm fans and the top 200mm blow hole fan. I was curious about the types of ram. will a 1600mhz ram module work? or what ddr 2 modules should i get . I will try for the screen shot.

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    Default Re: P35C-DS3R Memory

    Na, you have to write it down or take a picture with your camera.

    Yeah 1600 will work, but depending on your choice of speed to run with your quad 1333 may be best for you because if you do not overclock your CPU you can only run 1066 ram speed. But if you do plan to run a 400 or close FSB then 1600 would work

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    Ironleg, I have been using OCZ Reaper 1600 MHz DDR3 ram with my rev 1.0 P35C-DS3R for a few months now. I can almost get the ram stable at it's advertised 1600 MHz and latency of 7. The f12b bios improved things a little over the f11, but now it's not even available on the Gigabyte support site. I've ended up using the DDR3 at 1300 MHz and latency of 5 for the best performance on the ram. Keep in mind that I'm using a quad core Q9300 CPU, which is harder to get stable than a dual core. I'll bet a dual core CPU would be stable at advertised settings.

    Now in terms of whether or not you actually need DDR3 ram, I would vote no. I haven't seen huge performance increases and a good set of DDR2 ram would be much cheaper and offer a slower ram speed, but lower latencies. I don't think the DDR3 ram will start paying off until it gets cheaper and we are dealing with ram speeds above 2000 MHz and latencies of 5 or 6. I'd give it another year before jumping into DDR3 ram unless you just need to have the best.

    As for what other people have mentioned, I had trouble using 4x1 GB ram on this board with some types of RAM. It just wouldn't post with the 1GB sticks in some cases or wouldn't remain stable. 2x2GB ram did the trick. Also, if you do get the f12b bios, be sure to first set the bios back to optimized defaults to start with or the bios will not hold an overclock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollovoid7 View Post
    beware, dont buy 4gb of any high speed ram (1066) unless its 2gb per chip, this board (and many like it) cannot handle it, and will drive you crazy trying to figure out why its unstable, not sure why this isnt a disclaimer on the the box, because it is a huge issue that should be advertised openly.
    word!

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    Sorry it has taken so long to reply. many family emergencies and such. here is a copy or what was asked for.

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    I have tried xp 32/64, vista 32/64 os`s

    I would like to get more ram and faster because my current ram ( i think) is bottlenecking my system. I have heard if you put in the 8 gigs of ram (10666 i think is the top speed for ddr 2 for my board, not sure). but what brand and model would you get for performance and stability.

    ironleg

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    RAM is cheap these days. Go for some 1066 speed DDR2 with low latencies as possible. Latencies of 4-4-4-15 should be easy to find and not too expensive. If you look on newegg.com you'll see reviews that will tell you what are the good ones to buy. It is possible that your ram is bottlenecking your system since you have a good processor and more than enough graphics card. And even good manufacturers release bad sticks of RAM. Again, check out newegg.com. I still kind of question whether your RAM is bottlenecking your system though, but benchmarking is the only way to know for sure.

    You could also try overclocking your RAM since it didn't look like you were from your settings, but that would take awhile to explain.

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    how do I overclock my ram? i am new to the overclocking of ram and cpu. also since the FSB is 1333 and you can overclock ram to 1600 can the FSB be overclocked and handle a 1600 fsb cpu chip? I really not sure how much to sink into my current build or just start saving for a I7 or the new AMD. one last note, what DDR2 1066 ram model whould you recommend.

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    RAM can be overclocked by changing the memory multiplier and / or by changing the FSB speed. To get to 1600 you will have to set your FSB to 400 (CPU Host Freq at 400) and use the highest memory multiplier. I think there are a couple different 2:1 mem multipliers to pick from. If one doesn't work then try the other. The memory multiplier tells the memory to run at some multiple of the FSB speed. If you do overclock the FSB then you can try giving the FSB and GMCH another 0.1 or 0.2 volts above the default to keep the FSB stable. It looks like you were already doing that. And keep in mind that quad core CPU's are harder to overclock stably than dual core. I couldn't quite get my DDR3 to 1600 at its rated latency, which I probably could have with a dual core. Play around with RAM and CPU overvoltages too if you have problems with a stable overclock, but I wouldn't push the CPU voltage too much higher for fear of breaking it. Check forums to see what voltages people are giving the Q6600 without frying it.

    I ended up running my DDR3 RAM at 1275 and latency of 4 instead of 1600 and latency of 7 since this gave me the best performance from the RAM. Faster isn't always better when it comes to RAM. The RAM latencies you run at affect performance just as much.

    Also, when overclocking try to turn off as many of the fancy BIOS menu options that you don't need as you can (like virtualization, CIA2, etc.. unless you actually are using it). And then save your BIOS settings with F12 or F11 (i forget which) when you get rid of the options you don't need so that you can load all the settings back up again easily if the motherboard won't post with an overclock attempt and reverts back to defaults to post.

    Personally, I would stick with DDR2 RAM for now and save up for an i7 motherboard, CPU, and fast DDR3 RAM. DDR2 is crazy cheap right now and the DDR3 and i7 stuff will be dropping in price to more reasonable levels in the next 6 months. Check out newegg for good DDR2 memory at low prices. Just buy the lowest latency 1067 or 800 RAM you can afford that has good reviews. Most 800 speed RAM can be overclocked anyways and often offers lower latencies than the 1067 RAM. The 800 speed RAM you already have looks like it could be doing just fine for you. Also, it's a good idea to buy two 2GB RAM sticks instead of four 1GB sticks since some people (including me) can't get this motherboard to post with four 1GB sticks. Or you could go with four 2GB sticks and switch to 64 bit windows if you are really hard core :)

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    I am not set on a price yet, I have been looking on Newegg and I do not know what brand would work the best with my ga-p35c-ds3r motherboard. I also see other ram speeds above the 8500. can my motherboard handle higher DDR2 ram speeds? I am concerned about what would be the best brand and model without throwing money away. I am looking for 4 2 gig sticks to fill up the 8 gig total of DDR2. I have checked the gigabyte memory list and it is kinda sparse when addressing my concerns towards a purchase.
    Any Advice on the proper brand and model that would be the best in practicality and work in gaming ( worried about bsod and stability issues).

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    yeah, I have ben having problems with the 1 gig sticks and wasnt sure if I should get 8 gigs of ddr2 1066 or 4 gigs of ddr3 1333. any ideas?
    I have been looking and I am leaning towards ddr3 1333. I only need 2 x 2 gig sticks to top out my ram. my FSB is 1333 and I would like to find the very lowest latency ddr3 ram I can. Any suggestions are greatly appriciated.
    Last edited by ironleg; 02-12-2009 at 03:47 PM.

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