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    Question Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    Well thanks to ClubIt I have to get another motherboard. They screwed up my order big time. I went looking for the same DS3R board, but now I'm seriously considering the DS4 instead. What's weird is I was looking at the DS4 on this Legion Hardware review here, but the board pictured looks totally different than anywhere else.

    Below is the picture of the Gigabyte P35-DS4 from the Gigabyte site:



    Here's the same board at Newegg:



    Now this is the P35-DS4 picture on the Legion Hardware review:



    On the Legion site the DS4 looks completely different. I'm referring mainly to the heatsinks. I actually like the heatsink arrangement on the board pictured at Legion, but since it doesn't look anything like the ones pictured everywhere else I'm wondering has the board been changed? If anyone knows I'd appreciate the info.

    Either way, would the DS4 be a better mobo than the DS3R?

    Thanks.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    Yes it has changed, the P35-DS4 has gone through 4 different revisions, 1.0/1.1/2.0/2.1

    The one you see at legionhardware.com is revision 1.0...The revision 1.0's had the problem that the northbridge heatsink completely blocked out the topmost PCI-e x1 slot.

    All the other revisions are the same except 2.1 incorporates DES [dynamic energy saver]

    YES the DS4 is better than the DS3R, BUT i think the DS4 is more expensive cause your paying for more heatsinks! So, basically your paying extra for more copper heatsinks.

    Although if your forte is overclocking, then get the DS4 is your budget is not limited.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    YES the DS4 is better than the DS3R, BUT i think the DS4 is more expensive cause your paying for more heatsinks! So, basically your paying extra for more copper heatsinks.

    Although if your forte is overclocking, then get the DS4 is your budget is not limited.

    Thanks. I have a Q6600 with G0 stepping and a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme with a Scythe 120mm fan, because I do plan on OCing some. I believe the G.SKILL RAM I just got should work well in the DS4.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    Do not forget about 1.2 revision, but I do not see any differences compared to 1.1

    Main difference from 1.0 to 1.1/1.2 is the height of the heatsinks; from 1.1/1.2 to 2.0
    more USB ports at expense of LPT/COM; 2.1 is DES board ;-(
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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    Quote Originally Posted by randomness View Post
    Yes it has changed, the P35-DS4 has gone through 4 different revisions, 1.0/1.1/2.0/2.1

    The one you see at legionhardware.com is revision 1.0...The revision 1.0's had the problem that the northbridge heatsink completely blocked out the topmost PCI-e x1 slot.
    Maybe it's just sample variation, but my rev 2.0 also suffers from the NB heatsink blocking the topmost PCI-e x1 slot. At least, the backs of tuner cards which are not particularly long, such as the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1800, rub up against the heatsink fins.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    2.1 Also looks to be the same NB/PCIX1 problem. I dont have a card to stick in it to test, but looks pretty obvious you couldnt stick anything in it

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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    If you plan to overclock, I would steer you away from Gigabyte Board. I know that it's being touted as one of the best overclockers. In fact, P35 is the best overclocking chipset, but Gigabyte's quality control is less than acceptable. I've gone through 4 boards and all had some serious issues. Just read the boot issues on this forum.

    I've tried 3 different Q6600, 4 different sets of RAMs, and every possible known configuration to resolve reboot issues + BIOS reverting back randomly.

    I have the lastest 2.1 revision in hand.

    With the latest BIOS, when you set the DDR2 voltage to anything other than the default 1.8x V, computer will not wake up from sleep. BIOS F7 works fine.

    I would certainly look at Abit IP35 Pro.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    You are paying for more than just more heatsinks. Its in the name, DS4 meaning it has 4 power phases while the DS3R has 3 power phases. Helpfull for overclocking especially on quads because power is generally more stable and not as much stress on each power phase as there is more of them delivering the power, also less vdroop in most cases. I myself have ZERO vdroop and the board is not modded.

    @ solo, GIGABYTE boards are the best I ever used for overclocking, I have no idea what you are talking about.. just because you have a problem with their product don't mean stay away from them. I like to look into Abit's history of faulty products because its much higher than GIGABYTE. Seen enough reviews and almost every GIGABYTE board was walking all over Abit.. I absolutely love my DS4.

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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    nah...both the DS3R and DS4 have 6 phases of power. IF you look around the cpu socket, there are those black square things.

    They are the phase thingys.


    The DS4 has "silent pipe" as well as crazy cool whereas the DS3R doesnt. Plus if you want crossfire support, only the P35-DS3P and P35-DS4/5/Q6 supports it.
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    Default Re: Gigabyte P35-DS4 - Which Board?

    Quote Originally Posted by GiggaByte View Post
    You are paying for more than just more heatsinks. Its in the name, DS4 meaning it has 4 power phases while the DS3R has 3 power phases. Helpfull for overclocking especially on quads because power is generally more stable and not as much stress on each power phase as there is more of them delivering the power, also less vdroop in most cases. I myself have ZERO vdroop and the board is not modded.

    @ solo, GIGABYTE boards are the best I ever used for overclocking, I have no idea what you are talking about.. just because you have a problem with their product don't mean stay away from them. I like to look into Abit's history of faulty products because its much higher than GIGABYTE. Seen enough reviews and almost every GIGABYTE board was walking all over Abit.. I absolutely love my DS4.

    Thanks to everyone who has posted. GiggaByte, thank you for that information about the boards. I'm still seriously considering the DS3R, since this within my price range for a mobo and would meet more of my needs without overdoing it. However, since I had to send my board back I'm keeping my options open (until pay day, that is) and I appreciate all your feedback. It helps to hear what actual users have experienced with these products. The runners up for P35 is Abit, Gigabyte, and ASUS.

    I have had an ASUS P4P800 in my current PC for over seven years without a single issue and I was going to do ASUS again, but then I started reading more and more that recent ASUS mobos were experiencing a lot of issues and that's when I learned about Gigabyte. I originally liked the DS3L and then later went for the DS3R, because I preferred the Ultra Durable 2 design, which the DS3L does not have.

    Thanks again everyone for taking the time to post. I appreciate it.

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