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    Default Re: Getting new system, which mb X38, EP35 or P35... UPDATE

    Update...

    Got an unexpected boost of my economy, considering a GA-X48-DQ6 mostly becuse it supports PCI-E 2.0, which the graphics card has.

    Found a reasonable price on Mushkin XP2-8000 Dual Pack (2x2048) and if I haven't gotten it all wrong, that would mean that I can run the memory at 3x333 or 2.5x400 and get 1000 Mhz, am I way off?

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    Default Re: Getting new system, which mb X38, EP35 or P35

    Yeap, probably faster depending on you FSB. I use Mushkin, and they overclock very nicely, usually with low voltages once you figure out your timings, which the mushkin forum is super fast at helping you with

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    I have some advice that you can take with a grain of salt. You have three chipsets to choose from. P35, X38, and X48.

    Right off the bat, X48 is out. For two reasons. First, you aren't over clocking. Performance gains from P35 -> X38 -> X48 are almost nill at stock settings. X38 and more so X48 chipsets are meant for over clocking.

    Second, If you buy the X48-DQ6 for the newegg price of $310 you can do a lot more with the money that you save by getting the EX38-DS4 for $207 instead. So that is $103 you would save by doing so.

    Take that $103 and go from a dual core E8400 which is $260 to a quad core Q9450 which are starting out as $369 (or get sneaky and get a cheaper now available Xeon X3350 equivalent for ~$345). Hands down that is the smartest thing to do. You will have such a better system and you will have put your money where it maximizes your performance. You will go from a dual core to a quad core and love it just by making a smart MOBO buy.

    So next you may ask why not P35? Well, if you want PCIe 2.0 that is a good reason but make sure you know that right now, you won't see any benefit to having PCIe 2.0. It is more so a future investment. PCIe 2.0 doubles the bandwidth of each lane from 250 MB/s to 500 MB/s and also doubles the power that the slot will provide the card from 75W to 150W. The thing is though, no card today is using that bandwidth.

    Now, X38. It has PCIe2.0 that you want. So why did I say get the DS4 and not the DQ6 series? They are exactly the same board minus 2 SATA ports and a heck of a lot less copper. The DQ6 has the north and south bridges connected via heat pipes and the DS4 does not. DQ6 also has the back side copper sink over the CPU and south bridge. This is for overclocking stability. If you aren't overclocking then you don't need to pay for all of that extra copper. Look at the comparison below to see the features side by side.

    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ctID=2754,2760

    Once again this is just my opinion so it is completely up to you. You should think about putting your money where it will give you a great performance boost rather than sink it into a chipset that no one really knows what it is supposed to do yet. Just think about the savings and how you can go from a dual to a quad core CPU without any budget change. You could even go the other way and step up with a better GPU or 2x more RAM.

    P.S. @LSD...thanks for the info on the X3300s, I ended up snagging a X3350 for $333. If I was smart and got the OEM, I could have even got it for less than that.
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    Default Re: Getting new system, which mb X38, EP35 or P35

    Nice, let me know how it performs, I plan to get one of the new xeon quads once I have enough cash

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    Default Re: Getting new system, which mb X38, EP35 or P35

    Quote Originally Posted by SpinachEater View Post
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    Second, If you buy the X48-DQ6 for the newegg price of $310 you can do a lot more with the money that you save by getting the EX38-DS4 for $207 instead. So that is $103 you would save by doing so.
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    Now, X38. It has PCIe2.0 that you want. So why did I say get the DS4 and not the DQ6 series? They are exactly the same board minus 2 SATA ports and a heck of a lot less copper. The DQ6 has the north and south bridges connected via heat pipes and the DS4 does not. DQ6 also has the back side copper sink over the CPU and south bridge. This is for overclocking stability. If you aren't overclocking then you don't need to pay for all of that extra copper. Look at the comparison below to see the features side by side.
    For the first part about X38 or X48. I live in Sweden so buying from Newegg isn't an option for me and the price of the X48 is basically the same as for X38, the difference is about $30-40(about 2-300 swedish crowns).

    Second , if I were to buy a X38, the only ones I have seen for sale here is the DQ6


    Which means that even though I wont be overclocking the X48 looks to me as the best choice.

    /Lennart

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    Ah, availability will for sure be a factor then. Sorry for all of the useless jibber jabber then. Well...at least you will have one heck of a top notch MOBO!


    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Nice, let me know how it performs, I plan to get one of the new xeon quads once I have enough cash
    Haha, I like how you read through all of that crap.

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    Default Re: Getting new system, which mb X38, EP35 or P35

    Quote Originally Posted by SpinachEater View Post
    Ah, availability will for sure be a factor then. Sorry for all of the useless jibber jabber then. Well...at least you will have one heck of a top notch MOBO!

    It's ok for this time

    I appreciate all help I can get at this point of life...


    /Lennart

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