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    Default BIOS including RAM Questions

    I have everything installed and now setting up the BIOS. There are quite a few questions I need help on in the BIOS. For reference, I have the EX38-DS4 board and E8400 CPU FSB 1333MHz. Now, please tell me how to set the following (I do not want to overclock):

    1. No-Executable Memory Protect

    2. CPU Enhanced Halt (EIE)

    3. CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (CTM2)

    4. Virtualization Technology

    5. Init Display First--I set it to PEG because I think that's what it should be using my PCI-E x16 video card--is that correct?

    6. ACPI Suspend Type: S1 or S3?

    7. Vcore shows 1.204V

    8. Robust Graphics Booster is set to Auto

    9. CPU Clock Ratio is set 9X

    10. Fine CPU Clock Ratio--0.0

    11. CPU Freq: 3.00GHz 333.9

    12. CPU Host Clock Control: Disabled?

    13. CPU Host Frequency MHz 266 -- is that good or should it be changed?

    14. PCI-Express Frequency (MHz) Auto

    15. System Memory Multiplier SPD (Auto)

    16. Memory Frequency MHz 800

    Standard Timing Control:

    5, 5, 5, 15 matches RAM card specs, but I don't know at what voltage in BIOS.

    Advanced Timing Control:

    Act to Act Delay (tRRR) 3 Auto

    Rank Write to Read Delay: 3 Auto

    Write to Precharge Delay: 6 Auto

    Refresh to Act Delay: 52 Auto

    Read to Precharge Delay: 3 Auto

    Static +Read Value: 7 Auto

    Static +Read Phase Adjust: 17 Auto

    Command Rate: 2

    CPU/PCIE-X Clock Driving Control: 800mV

    CPU Clock Skew Control: Normal

    GMCH Clock Skew Control: Normal

    System Voltage: Manual

    DDR Over Voltage: Normal

    All Normal except Loadline Calibration is set to Auto

    Normal CPU VCore: 1.22500V

    Help!

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    Default Re: BIOS including RAM Questions

    1. No-Executable Memory Protect <<< Leave Or Enable if not already

    2. CPU Enhanced Halt (EIE) <<< Leave (EIST)

    3. CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (CTM2) <<< Leave

    4. Virtualization Technology <<< Enabled if you want to use 64bit system in Vmware, or visa versa depending on your Actual Operating system

    5. Init Display First--I set it to PEG because I think that's what it should be using my PCI-E x16 video card--is that correct? << Correct PEG = PCI-Express Graphics

    6. ACPI Suspend Type: S1 or S3? <<<< Set to S3, but DO not use standby/sleep/resume/suspend in your Operating system. Gigabyte boards tend to have Issues with sleep, and since you are not a overclocker you dont want to keep trying different voltages trying to get it to work. And when it fails at any setting you risk damaging the BIOS and needing a RMA

    7. Vcore shows 1.204V

    8. Robust Graphics Booster is set to Auto <<<< Leave or set to fast

    9. CPU Clock Ratio is set 9X <<< Leave

    10. Fine CPU Clock Ratio--0.0 <<< Leave

    11. CPU Freq: 3.00GHz 333.9

    12. CPU Host Clock Control: Disabled? <<< Enabled Set to 333 for 3Ghz

    13. CPU Host Frequency MHz 266 -- is that good or should it be changed? << Should be 333

    14. PCI-Express Frequency (MHz) Auto <<<< Set to 100, Very Important!!!

    15. System Memory Multiplier SPD (Auto) <<< set to 2.4 (2.4X 333 FSB = 800Mhz ram)

    16. Memory Frequency MHz 800

    Standard Timing Control: Set to Manual and enter 5-5-5-15 For the rest I need to know your ram brand and sizes IE 2x1 or 2x2 . I will post settings, but use the highest and then move down ONE AT A TIME Testing after each move

    5, 5, 5, 15 matches RAM card specs, but I don't know at what voltage in BIOS.

    Advanced Timing Control:

    Act to Act Delay (tRRR) 3 Auto <<< 3-4

    Rank Write to Read Delay: 3 Auto <<< 4 < try 4 last use 9-11 first

    Write to Precharge Delay: 6 Auto <<< 3-5

    Refresh to Act Delay: 52 Auto <<<< 42

    Read to Precharge Delay: 3 Auto <<< 3-5

    Static +Read Value: 7 Auto <<< 7-10

    Static +Read Phase Adjust: 17 Auto <<< Leave on Auto, 1-31 or Zero

    Command Rate: 2 <<< Leave

    CPU/PCIE-X Clock Driving Control: 800mV <<< Leave

    CPU Clock Skew Control: Normal <<< Leave

    GMCH Clock Skew Control: Normal <<< Leave

    System Voltage: Manual

    DDR Over Voltage: Set manually to the spec on your ram (Which you didnt list) likely 2.1 so +0.3. Check on the sticker or package, or post your ram brand and model # and I will find for you

    All Normal except Loadline Calibration is set to Auto <<<< Leave on auto if not overclocking

    Normal CPU VCore: 1.22500V <<<< Leave or set on default voltage manually

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    4. Virtualization Technology : I will be using Vista Ultimate 64-bit, do I select Enabled?

    6. ACPI Suspend Type: S1 or S3? S3 is what you recommend, but your guide states S1. Any reason for the change? You say not to put my computer to sleep, not even using keyboard? So, no screen saver?

    13. CPU Host Frequency MHz 266--you said 333, so I just change within that setting?

    My RAM is 2x2GB for total of 4GB of G. Skill RAM with stated spec of 1.8-1.9V. What do you suggest for this RAM 1.8 or 1.9? Also, now that you know my RAM, what suggestions do you have for those settings in my first post above?

    Should I disable Legacy USB Storage Detect? I am not using any USB storage device.

    I always installed the OS before connecting to Internet, would you suggest I plug in the DSL connection before loading Vista Ultimate 64-bit?

    Edit: Thought you should also know my RAM is PC6400 DDR2 800
    Last edited by JVM; 05-15-2008 at 03:32 AM.

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    4. No, only matters if you are using a Virtual Machine such as vmware, or similar where you would run a 32bit system in a virtual environment

    6. S1 or S3, it does not matter since I suggest to NOT USE SLEEP. You can try it, but I doubt you will have any luck Screensavers yes you can use, but disable sleep alltogether unless you plan to try it

    13. Yes, you must enable CPU host Clock Control first then set to 333, it should be by default so I assume you upgraded from a 1066 CPU without a BIOS update correct? If so whether you load a new BIOS or not before making all these changes you should go in the BIOS and select "LOAD OPTIMIZED DEFAULTS" then save and apply, reboot and then come in and make your changes

    Ok for your ram, I suggest +0.1V for 1.9V For the Subtimings and other voltages I suggest these as starting points >>>
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3-4
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 9-11 (may need higher, but not likely)
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 3-5
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 52-62
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ 3-6
    Static tRead Value_______________ 7-10
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ 1-31 Leave on Auto or 1-31 or 0

    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.100V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] <<< For stability
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] <<< For stability
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V - +0.125/+0.150] <<< For stability, start with +0.1


    Yes, disable Legacy USB storage Detect, and USB mouse and Keyboard (Even if you are using them they will work fine)

    As for the internet, that does not matter, either way

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    "Ok for your ram, I suggest +0.1V for 1.9V"

    Problem is I don't know what the present setting is. I knew where to find this info on my old MB, but I don't see the RAM voltage in BIOS with this board. How do I check it?

    No, I did not upgrade from a 1066 CPU or update the BIOS (my board came with F3 BIOS, latest for this board). This is a new system with new components in a new case.

    Before I mess with the settings below, please confirm they are valid without knowing what my present RAM voltage is.

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________3-4
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 9-11 (may need higher, but not likely)
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 3-5
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 52-62
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ 3-6
    Static tRead Value_______________ 7-10
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ 1-31 Leave on Auto or 1-31 or 0

    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.100V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] <<< For stability
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] <<< For stability
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V - +0.125/+0.150] <<< For stability, start with +0.1

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    Default Re: BIOS including RAM Questions

    Also, you said " Yes, disable Legacy USB storage Detect, and USB mouse and Keyboard (Even if you are using them they will work fine)"

    I first tried my USB keyboard with the settings as you suggest for Keyboard and Mouse, but I couldn't get into BIOS until I put a PS/2 adapter on my USB cable. So, I don't think it works disabling USB support for keyboard.

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    Ahh, well you do have a OLD BIOS then. on the MAIN BIOS page hit "Control + F1" then the screen will flash, the go into MIT section and you will see the voltages and subtimings

    *EDIT* just FULLY Noticed what you said..... your comment about latest bios...

    Well then if that is the case you should be able to see all timings and Voltage settings already in the MIT section DDR2 is ram voltage, did that confuse you? If not, what do you mean by you do not see ram voltages in the BIOS on this board????

    Auto or default is 1.8 so you want +.1 for 1.9. Do not leave on Auto as sometimes is uses more the 1.8 or even 1.9, Manually set this for sure

    Yes all settings are correct

    About the keyboard Hmm I have BOTH mine disabled and they are both USB, maybe it is just keyboard mouse specific. Well leave those on then, just disable USB storage detect

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    I went into M.I.T. and that's how I gave you all those RAM settings in the BIOS. I am still unsure of where that RAM voltage is in M.I.T. I do see System Voltage Contol and DDR2 OverVoltage Control but don't know which if any of those two is Memory voltage. What is Gigabyte's terminology for memory voltage? System Voltage Control? Or?

    Edited: Sorry, just read your post again and see you say it's "DDR2 is ram voltage."

    Thanks, and sometime tonight I will go in there and make the changes and run memtest. How many passes should I run before exiting?
    Last edited by JVM; 05-15-2008 at 05:40 AM.

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    Just realized I didn't see DDR2 except DDR2 OverVoltage Control, which was set at Normal. Do you mean DDR2 OverVoltage? If that is so, I will look again but I don't think it stated any specifics, only Normal.

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    I followed your instructions and the system just kept cycling off and on! I can't do anything with the computer! There was a warning when I changed CPU Host Clock Control to Enabled and set CPU Host Frequency to 333. I don't know why you wanted me to do that since my RAM timings were accurate with Manufacturers specs at 5-5-5-15 and memory frequency at 800. I also got a warning System Voltage NOT optimized and had Performance Enhanced set at default Turbo, which the BIOS wanted me to change to Standard.

    Anyway, what do I do now that the system just cycles off and on?

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