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    I have a Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R motherboard and Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR2-800 RAM. Could someone suggest how I should set up my BIOS? I'm trying to make sense of the information in this thread but it's 'sploding my brain.

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    MemSet v.3.5.7beta
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    @ Kythlyn

    Please make a new thread of your own, to keep my sanity, and I will be more then happy to help you with some suggested settings.

    @Stasio

    Thanks, will update post to include that

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    MemSet v.3.5.8 beta
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    Hi Lsdmeasap,

    Sorry to impose on you like this.

    I searched through this entire thread and could not find anything that would help explain why there are different Advanced timings values with BIOS and MemSet.

    Here's the snapshot again:




    The only one that does make some sense to me is the Write to Read Delay which, I assume, involves different values for Same/Different rank.

    The remaining 3 values with question marks (tRTP, tWTP and tRTW) I can't seem to make sense out of at all. Actually, you'll see that tRTW can't be adjusted in the BIOS, only with MemSet.

    Now I'm wondering: if I inadvertantly SAVE some of those "hidden" values with MemSet and the system crashes, probably gonna need to clear the CMOS. Something I don't like to do since that takes over an hour for me to do it, because of how I have my entire system set up LOL.

    Again, I'm sorry to have to impose on you like this.
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    Default Re: Memory Timings Explained W/ Suggested Timings & Memset VS. BIOS

    No problem man! First off, you should not use Memset to Save things. All changes should be made in the BIOS only, or in memset just for testing or benchmarking not to be saved and applied at boot time.

    An hour to clear CMOS? OUCH! Please connect your case's reset switch to the CLEAR CMOS Pins, then you can just stick a needle in the button to hold it down for a few (10-20) minutes with the PSU Switched off or unplugged

    tWTP cannot be adjusted with your BIOS.

    From page one Memset Vs. BIOS >>>

    These three you asked about are on page one, here is the info I provided on them

    tRTW can be set in the BIOS
    Rank Write to READ Delay (tWTR)_______ (4-6) 9-11 (Note Actual Value set in BIOS Vs. What system Uses will be 7+)
    As for tWR (Write to Precharge Delay)
    Write to Precharge Delay (tWR)________ 3-5 (Note Actual Value set in BIOS Vs. What system Uses will be 5+)
    And tRTP
    Read to Precharge Delay (tRTP)_________ 3-6 (Note Actual Value set in BIOS Vs. What system Uses will be 2+)

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    Please connect your case's reset switch to the CLEAR CMOS Pins, then you can just stick a needle in the button to hold it down for a few (10-20) minutes with the PSU Switched off or unplugged
    LOL...that's a neat little trick!

    I'm assuming that using the RESET switch in that manner grounds the CLR CMOS pins the same way a jumper does...right???

    It takes 10~20 minutes to clear the CMOS??? I always thought it took only 10~20 seconds.
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    I used some old front panel wiring off an old case I had laying around in storage. Cut it off near the front panel assembly and left the terminal on the other end. I then crimped some Auto-electrical spades (male/female) on the opposite end from the plug.

    Took my whole setup apart to get the computer system out of my cabinet. Then plugged the terminal into the CLR CMOS pins.

    If I ever need to clear my CMOS again I can just fasten the spade connectors to each other and wait 10~20 minutes?????
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    Lsdmeasap,please update with MemSet v.3.5.9 beta
    added support for G41 and Q45
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