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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L and 4x1GB sticks of RAM

    Static tRead Value_______________ 4

    Manually set to 7 or 8 and see if that helps. You may also want to try manually setting Refresh to Act to 62-68 and Act to Act to 4-5

    Actually you should test with these settings and see if that is ok >>>

    Ram speed at 800

    444-12 try first with below settings, if no luck try 555-12

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 5
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 12
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 10
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 68
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ 6
    Static tRead Value_______________ 7-10

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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L and 4x1GB sticks of RAM

    It's stable for the time being.

    Prime95 has been running for an hour so far with no errors. Ill post after a 12 hour run and a few passes with memtest.

    I appreciate the help!

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    So far so good. It ran Prime95 for 8 hours and memtest for 4.

    I really appreciate the help.

    By any chance could you explain to me how this would fix it? I don't understand why the motherboard could not support the default memory timings that it suggested?

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    Anytime, glad I could be of some help

    So what settings are you now using? Can you please post them and I will try and help you get them better

    Well the "Default" or "Auto" as chosen by the board is programmed so that any user with most any ram can get the system started and get into the BIOS to make the needed changes. Running 4x1GB with everything on Auto is not going to get the right timings/voltages to the board is why. The SPD on the ram, which is where it stores "General" timings that Auto tries to use is programmed there by the ram maker for a 2x1 setup so they just would not work in a 4x1. Additionally using this much ram on any board is going to need some Direct user settings changed as every board is going to vary on how it accepts a 4x1 or 2x2 setup

    You dont want your board trying to guess what your ram needs to use do you? I mean it could, and sometimes works ok. But generally it is always best for the user to set them, even if you choose to set them high and not mess with getting the best out of the ram.

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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L and 4x1GB sticks of RAM

    These settings are currently running without issue -

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 5
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 12
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 10
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 68
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ 6
    Static tRead Value_______________ 7

    The only thing im worried about is why the motherboard cant detect these settings automatically. I've never seen a motherboard require user intervention on "advanced" timings just to run correctly. Does this not put the novice computer user in a very bad spot?

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    Clearly, this board is not for the novice. Having gone through all this with my board, I now feel a lot more confident about setting BIOS parameters and tweaking the system to get the most out of it. Most people do not want to go through all this. I would think that default settings would get you stable, even if you missed out on all your components could give you if tweaked properly. That is not the case with these boards. And there is absolutely no customer support from Gigabyte to fill that gap, either. They should be paying LSD a salary!
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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L and 4x1GB sticks of RAM

    Thanks mxcrowe

    Yeah Gigabyte boards are not for the novice, almost like DFI boards now! Which is great for the overclockers. Not so great for those who do not know

    LTDAN, when you buy Expensive hardware and components you should EXPECT to manually set things. Auto which is programmed by the BIOS is like I said set that way in a attempt to make it so that the minimal hardware in most any configuration will start so that the user can get into the BIOS and make the needed changes for their own spefic components.

    You can work on trying to lower these if you like >>>

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ 5 <<< Can be likely 3-4
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ 12 <<< Can be likely 3-5 or 9-11 (Test each range to see which is best, both will likely work)

    Write to Precharge Delay_________ 10 <<< Can be likely 3-6
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ 68< << Can be likely 50-54 or so
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ 6 <<< Can be likely 3-5

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    I appreciate the response.

    I understand the gigabyte boards are not for the novice, but I try to grasp the entire realm of users when I make posts that I know will help others in the future.

    I actually got this board for $85 at a local retailer, and thats cheap in my book :)

    But thank you once again, the system has been running strong ever since. I would try to tweak the ram settings, but ill be installing the new MSI P45 board I bought tomorrow night, and my brother will be taking this one and only using 2GB ram. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't giving him a potentially disastrous motherboard.

    Much appreciated LSD :D

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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L and 4x1GB sticks of RAM

    YA, that is a good price for sure

    Anytime, good luck with things. And feel free to post back anytime

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