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    Default GA-EP45-DS3L -BIOS Setting Help Please

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    GA-EP45-DS3L - F9 Bios
    GSK F28500-CL5D-4gbpk - 2x 2GB G-Skill 1066
    E8400 Processor
    8800GT Graphic Card
    2x 10k (150mb) Raptor HDD




    Hello! I am not an experienced OC person. I don't really ever do it. This stuff is all new to me, and I'm not really planning to do a lot of OC on this board. I was just wanting to get my memory to run at 1066 as it was rated.


    Three questions:

    1. Is it possible to force 1066 (Gskill ram) with this board? GA-EP45-DS3L ? I have the F8 BIOS.

    2. Is the difference between 800 and 1066 speed significant when it comes to RAM? Will it hurt to leave ram at 800 or is that stupid?

    3. Would adding 2 more sticks for a total of 8 GB be a mistake? I like to run a couple memory hog games in Vista 64 at the same time - well two instances of a MMO. I figure more ram is always good.. or no?

    Thanks for any help to this noob!
    Last edited by roph; 09-26-2008 at 12:47 AM.

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    You should be able to run that RAM at rated speed with no problem. Look around on the forum here - there are lots of folks with configurations similar to yours. And recommendations have been made for memory timings that will work. Lsdmeasap has provided a template of BIOS settings that you should fill out and post here so you can get specific advice.
    Sure, more memory is great...if you need it. Unless you are working with some massive database or gigantic photoshop images, etc., I doubt you will see any differences with 8GB vs. 4GB of RAM. I am running 2x2GB, but ran into problems successfully resuming from standby, so I took 1 stick out (which fixes the problem). With both benchmarks and any applications I run, I have noticed essentially no difference falling back to 2GB. Of course, if I have to run something with a ton of data, yeah, I'll put the other stick in there. I think 8GB, for the vast majority of people, is just overkill.
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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    Thank you for your encouraging words, mxcrowe! I'll read through the forums - I've been trying to, but it seems like Greek to me so far!

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    Yes, your board will run 1066 and no need to "Force" anything. You will likley have to adjust your FSB though so you can get at 1066 with a Better Ram multi. And you will have to get things out of Auto to do this.


    No, the real world differences between 800 and 1066 are not noticable at all. Only in a benchmark would you see the difference. And no, it will not hurt your ram at all to leave it at 800 should you decide to do so

    8GB of ram will require some tweaking for sure, and will take you some time to get stable. I would only advise that if you are ready and have time to learn. And as said above 8GB over 4gb Will not be noticeable unless you are doing heavy video editing or something along those lines

    If you still need help after reading around a bit, feel free to post me back your settings in the below template and I will give you some suggested starting settings to get you closer to 1066 ram speed

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............:
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................:


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< Leave
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< Leave
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< Leave
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< Leave


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< Leave

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: <<
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    8GB of ram will require some tweaking for sure, and will take you some time to get stable. I would only advise that if you are ready and have time to learn.
    Lsdmeasap - thank you for the detailed response. Just so I can make sure I fully understand you, do mean it would require some tweaking if I want to run 8gb at 1066 or even to just put 8gb into the mboard and let it run at default setting of 800?

    I know 8gb would probably be overkill, but ram is so cheap and I love the idea of it. Hah.. yeah maybe a bit ridiculous, but what can I say?

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    Anytime, that is why I am here!

    Yes for either way you will have to do some tweaking, more so for 1066 speed. But yeah any speed 8GB will need some adjustments.

    And Auto is Never the way to go for any amount, Auto is put there so that Most any hardware will work enough for the user to get into the BIOS and set their own settings. And so that is will also hopefully work for almost any 2x1 config so that even users who do not have very much BIOS knowledge will likely be able to use their system fine.

    Auto is generally set higher then need be, or less in some cases, and Never gives the best performance

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    Okay this sounds like it could be fun! I have the time and a brain to learn!
    I'll post your template when the rest of my 8GB arrive! Haha.. I need to be able to show my son that my pc has more ram than his.

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    Already ordered eh! Aight, lets show your son up!

    What is he running by the way?

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    LSD - really sorry to take so long to get back to this issue! I have been waiting for RAM from Newegg, but they shipped via DHL and it never arrived. I finally told them to cancel the order. 4 GB seems to be plenty!! (just like you said it would be )

    Maybe you can help me tweak my system to run its best?? With the settings I will list below (mostly auto) I run very stable at about 36c idle - max temp I've seen is 52c under heavy load. (using real temp 2.70)

    BTW - I updated to BIOS F9 and I have never had a bluescreen with several hours of use after several S3 sleeps :)

    Thanks for any help in advance!!

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.+0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.00ghz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:AUTO


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800mv
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: Turbo
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: ? – Couldn’t find this setting!
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: Auto

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3 auto
    tWTR..........................................3 auto
    tWR............................................6 auto
    tRFC...........................................52 auto
    tRTP...........................................3 auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0 auto

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7 auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5 auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8 auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:+200ps auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:-700ps auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7 14
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 0-normal
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 15
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 5
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5 10
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8 13
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:-700ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:-700ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... ?– couldn’t find this setting!
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.25000v auto
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:1.200v auto
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:1.500v auto
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.805 auto
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:? – Couldn’t find this setting!

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.100v auto
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........:0.760v auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: ? – couldn’t find this setting!
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.550v auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: ? – couldn’t find this setting!

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.800v
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: ? – couldn’t find this setting
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: ? – couldn’t find this setting
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: ? – couldn’t find this setting

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................:disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: disabled
    C2/C2E State Support....................: disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........:enabled
    CPU EIST Function.........................: disabled
    Virtualization Technology................: enabled
    Last edited by roph; 09-25-2008 at 09:58 PM.

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    Default Re: Ga-ep45-ds3l + gsk f28500-cl5d-4gbpk

    I know my settings are way off from optimal, but everything is at least stable - but clearly not as fast as it could be. I've just never played with clock or voltage settings in a bios before - I'm a bit nervous to try anything. If anyone could give me at least a 'safe' starting point, I'd appreciate it.

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