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    Default EP45-DS3L random system hangs....

    Hello

    So I have attempted building my own comp for the first time and this are the parts I got new:

    Intel E8400
    Patriot PC2-9200 (5-5-5-12), 2.3v
    EP45-Ds3L flashed to F8 bios
    Sapphire 4850
    Thermaltek 700w psu

    From the beginning I had alot of problem trying to install windows first the system would hang, so I tweaked the bios a little bit (never worked with bios that much before, mostly from googling here and there) so I got windows to install, but at random times it would still randomly lock up....

    So I took everything apart and reseated everything, making sure everything connects properly, but still no luck.

    So I tried memtest86+ and I could not run it through... it just randomly hangs in the beginning 1 min or less.... So I thought it might be memory so I got another pair the Corsair CM2X1024-8500C5D which is listed under gigabyte's web as ones that's supported by the MB... and that didn't run memtest86+ either... i'm now at loss as to what i can do next..... Here's my BIOS settings, if someone can help me out, I would greatly appreciate it... cuase I think i've exhausted my patience and options...


    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)

    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.00GHz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< Leave
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< Leave
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< Leave
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< Leave


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Profile2 <-- I found this setting automatically detects the timmings for both types of the memory i have
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: AUTO
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066 <-- for the Corsair but same with the patriot eventhough patriot is rated at 1150MHz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [AUTO] able to find the correct timming for the ram i have

    Standard Timing Control (first set for patriot, 2nd for corsair)
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5 5
    tRP'........................................... 5 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12 15

    Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.22500V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.550V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.805V*.......: <<< Leave


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: <<
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......? ...........: i don't see this
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……?............: i don't see this
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....2.100V............: i set this to 2.1 for both ram
    DRAM Termination .… ........?....: i don't see this
    Channel A Reference ?............: i don't see this
    Channel B Reference ?............: i don't see this

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] ? what does this do?

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L random system hangs....

    I can help, please tell me what Configuration of ram you are using now. Like which set, and how much is it 2x1 or 2x2. Then I can give you some settings.

    For now I will answer your questions, and post a little bit of settings back for you until you get back to me about the ram

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.00GHz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< Leave
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< Leave


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Profile2 <-- I found this setting automatically detects the timmings for both types of the memory i have
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: AUTO
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066 <-- for the Corsair but same with the patriot eventhough patriot is rated at 1150MHz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [AUTO] able to find the correct timing for the ram i have

    For the above comments. First off 1066 ram or above is all really 800 ram that is tested to run at a certain speed with certain timings and voltages. Without those voltages set the XMP profiles may not be picked up. And your 1150 ram may or may not have a SPD profile for XMP to even see

    Now, I would also suggest a few things there be manually set and not to use the XMP, but I would need to know the ram info I asked above first. But mainly I would suggest something like this for 1066 >>>

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 3.20
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1065
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control (first set for patriot, 2nd for corsair)
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12/15

    Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC........................................... 52-62 needed for 2x2GB, this is a must
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10 << what do you see here in the BIOS?

    If nothing, please download this and post a screenshot from within windows so I can see what AUTO is giving you for the above value it may be too low >>>
    Tweakers.fr

    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10 << what do you see here in the BIOS?
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.22500V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.550V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.805V*.......: <<< Leave


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << For 2x2GB of ram you should set 1.25-1.3. For 2x1GB of ram I would set 1.2 for stability

    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......? ...........: i don't see this
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……?............: i don't see this
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....2.100V............: i set this to 2.1 for both ram
    DRAM Termination .… ........?....: i don't see this
    Channel A Reference ?............: i don't see this
    Channel B Reference ?............: i don't see this

    Do not worry about the above ones you do not see until you want to overclock. The you may need to use the Control + F1 hotkey on the MAIN page of the BIOS then go into MIT section this is mentioned in the guides which you should check out if you havent. Or it may not be a BIOS feature for your board

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] <<< This is for Vmware/Virtual PC or Other Virtual Machines. Like if you want to run a 64 bit system in a 32bit system, or run linux withing windows. Many options are available with virtual machines, but if you are not using one then you can disable this

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L random system hangs....

    Thanks Lsd for your reply, both of the RAM i have are 1gig sticks for a total of 2gigs for each type of RAM. Right now I have the sticks at slot 1 and 3. I'll pot you the bios values when i get home tonight.

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L random system hangs....

    OK, thanks. Yeah post back with what you are trying and I will advise. In case I am not around when you do get home here is some ranges for 2x1GB at 1066, set to all the highest suggested and later you can work your way down. Use these with the rest from above and 1.2 MCH Voltage >>>

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12/15

    Advanced Timing Control [Press Enter]
    tRRD...........................................3-4
    tWTR..........................................3-6 (8-12)
    tWR............................................4-8 (10-14)
    tRFC........................................... 38-48 (Likely 42 will be good)
    tRTP...........................................3-6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-12

    And of course you could have gotten 2 DOA sets of ram, which is not very likely but it can happen. I would advise you test both set, one stick at a time on a different system at stock speeds, timings and voltages. Also, you are using the latest Memtest86+ right 2.01? If not you have to get that as older versions are not compatible with your board >>>>
    http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 09-11-2008 at 12:38 AM.

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