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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Goodmorning Lsdmeasap,

    It got quite late last night...

    And for sure I will set those timings manually, but I struggled so long, that I consentrated on getting it stable.
    I have saved this oc profile i Bios, so that I from now on, quick can roll this oc back.

    Now! let's get busy :-)

    The reason for not writing the timings, where that I had set them to Auto, therefore I didn't think they wore important.
    I have some questions for you:
    - I've read that high volt on "cpu pll" is very dangereus, is that true?
    - what du you think about my vdrop (the are in the previous post) acceptable?
    - are there any of my volt settings, you would set lower?
    - why do you allways tell people to put pci-e to 100mhz (my is 101) is that bad?
    - same for robust graphics booster, mine is turbo (is that bad)?

    best regards

    John
    (sorry if my English is bad, I'm from Denmark)

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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Ya, I knew you was using Auto.... Just trying to get you to Not use Auto was all.

    You will get better performance

    Ya High Pll is dangerous, but 1.5-16 is fine. Most of the time maybe 1.51 or 1.52 will do fine

    Vtt Or Termination is what you want to keep under 1.4 or so for 45NM

    Maybe your ram to 2.1

    But testing after everything is stable to lower voltages is the only way to be sure

    Na, 100-110 is OK, I normally may use 100-105 myself. I suggest 100 because it is where it SHOULD be, and alot of users leave it on Auto which will go up as you overclock the FSB if left in Auto. So just trying to get them in the habit of setting it, and to a for sure safe level

    Reboust Graphics booster is fine, I have noticed only a few fps improvement in P35 anyway, and not bad effects from either of the settings

    Your english is pretty good man, no worries there! Do you translate what I write to your language?

    I may be gone here in a minute or two until later today or tonight. I am trying to get My P45 installed so if I do not reply that is why.

    Good luck until then!

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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Hey again,

    It's quite ok, you have your own things too ;-)

    No I'm reading english and do understand you very well...

    What about my vdrop?
    CPU Vcore: 1.42500 (in windows = 1.392) windows at load = 1.376
    acceptable?

    John

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    Hey again my friend,

    I have now set the timings manually, my system now runs at 9x450fsb = 4050MHz, with these settings in my Bios.

    Here are my settings:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Turbo
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 450Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 101

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 900
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 150
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 150


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 900
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 5 (can also use 4 without probs.)
    tRCD .........................................: 5
    tRP'...........................................: 5
    tRAS..........................................: 15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................: 4
    tWTR..........................................: 12
    tWR............................................: 14
    tRFC...........................................: 48
    tRTP...........................................: 6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.43125 (in windows = 1.408) at load = 1.376

    CPU Termination…......1.200V*.......: 1.400
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.560
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.773
    CPU Reference2………...0.800V*.......: 0.806

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.300
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.811
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.920
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.560
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.140

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.200

    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.940
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.940
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.940

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    What is your verdict, shall I alter some setting or use it as it is?

    Best Regards

    John
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    Last edited by majofl; 09-24-2008 at 01:28 AM.

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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Hey LSD,

    Please give me some comments...

    John

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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Quote Originally Posted by majofl View Post
    Hey again,

    It's quite ok, you have your own things too ;-)

    No I'm reading english and do understand you very well...

    What about my vdrop?
    CPU Vcore: 1.42500 (in windows = 1.392) windows at load = 1.376
    acceptable?

    John
    Yes, Vdroop is within the norm. I do think though your CPU does not need that much at all to run 4ghz. And 1.37 is fro sure above Intel Spec. All chips are different though, are you sure you need that much?

    My next reply is within your quote, sorry. Hope you see my thoughts on your template below >>>

    Quote Originally Posted by majofl View Post
    Hey again my friend,

    I have now set the timings manually, my system now runs at 9x450fsb = 4050MHz, with these settings in my Bios.

    Here are my settings:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Turbo
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 450Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 101

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 900
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 150 << 100 may help
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 150 << 200 may help


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 900
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 5 (can also use 4 without probs.)
    tRCD .........................................: 5
    tRP'...........................................: 5
    tRAS..........................................: 15


    You may be able, and find better test results with 4-4-4-12 above, or 4-5-5-12, or even 5-4-4-12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................: 4
    tWTR..........................................: 12
    tWR............................................: 14
    tRFC...........................................: 48
    tRTP...........................................: 6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10 << Cant get to 7 or 8?
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.43125 (in windows = 1.408) at load = 1.376 <<< Looks to be a bit much for sure

    CPU Termination…......1.200V*.......: 1.400
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.560
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.773
    CPU Reference2………...0.800V*.......: 0.806

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.300 << Can you bring this down any?

    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.811
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.920
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.560
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.140

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.200 << tested less?

    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.940
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.940
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.940

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    What is your verdict, shall I alter some setting or use it as it is?

    Best Regards

    John

    Hey, on your page for Static tRead Value, do you have Driving strength profiles and many other settings? Are you using the latest BIOS? If you are not then you likely do not have what I am thinking of. On my board with the latest BIOS static tread is on it's own page, with Many other settings.

    So I was just wondering if your's is the same with the latest BIOS. MY Latest is F7, F6 BIOS looked just like the template we use, F7 does not for sure

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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Hey again LSD,

    Thanks very much for your respons, I'm at work right now, I will try lower the volts on the things you suggested, when I'm home.

    About my Vcore, I don't know why my cpu must have so high voltage, it's just not stable enough with lower Vcore. Eaven with 1.43125v my system can't run OCCT stable, but I can run Counter-Strike Source for over 4 hours, and Race Driver Grid without problems. And since my temps are very low with only aircooling, I didn't worry so much about high Vcore.

    About my Bios, it's F7 same as you are referring to, though I have thought about upgrade to the new F8 wich resently came out. But on the other hand, I do not want to loose my saved Bios settings :-(

    Best Regards

    John

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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Keep in mind, some of what I say may not be a suggestion but rather a question when it comes to lowering things. Only your hardware can let ya know though

    Write your BIOS settings down, wont take you buy a few minutes

    Well good luck with your tweaking

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    Talking Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Hey LSD,

    I have ajusted some of the settings, and here are the specs.

    My Bios settings:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Turbo
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.05


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 450Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 101

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 900
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 100
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 200


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 900
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 4
    tRCD .........................................: 4
    tRP'...........................................: 4
    tRAS..........................................: 12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................: 4
    tWTR..........................................: 12
    tWR............................................: 14
    tRFC...........................................: 48
    tRTP...........................................: 6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10 (system won't boot whith 9)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10 (system won't boot whith 9)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.43125 (in windows = 1.408) at load = 1.376

    CPU Termination…......1.200V*.......: 1.400
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.560
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.773
    CPU Reference2………...0.800V*.......: 0.806

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.280
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; 0.811
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.910
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: 1.560
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.140

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.180

    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.930
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.930
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.930

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    I couldn't get anything else than 10 to work in static tRead Value. And I have not yet tryied to lower the Vcore, will try that later.

    What is your verdict, shall I alter some setting or use it as it is?

    Best Regards

    John

    Here some results:

    CPU-Z Validator 2.1
    Attached Images Attached Images EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys-11_cachemem_4050mhz_-4-4-4-12-jpg 

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    Default Re: EP45-DS4, Optimal BIOS settings for my sys

    Hey Majofl..

    did you run some stability tests on your board using Orthos or other program?

    I copy your settings (I have the same board as you, but my CPU is E8500 and memory is OCZ DDR1200) but ORTHOS run just 5 minutes and stopped.

    best regards,

    Juan

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