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    Default Re: Mushkin pc6400 X-line extreme memory

    Ya, I have seen some YouTube videos with exploding CPU's

    twr and twtr will help copy times, as well as lower act to act, and trtp. Which you can for sure lower them all


    Ya man, I have heard they are great sticks. Wanna test 444-12, trd 7 @ 900 for me? What board are you on again?

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    i just searched exploding cpu on youtube - theres some funny stuff up on there, the duron that goes bang looks a tad faked though - loved the thrash/metal on in the background, it really went well with the theme

    let the board use auto for the sub timings in the hope it would set them all pretty loose but whatever memory speed i tried (860,870,880,890) just wouldn't boot at 4-4-4-12.

    in windows now at 900mhz & 5-4-4-12 memset says my P35 DS3L has set trd to 12 memset pic below

    will keep tightening trd + record the figures till it falls over!

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    trd 7 freezes the machine, list below shows impact of changing trd only and a less than uniform performance increase

    3.6cpu 450fsb 900mhz 1:1 5-4-4-12 trd12

    read - 7504
    write - 9423
    copy - 5810
    latency - 70.5

    3.6cpu 450fsb 900mhz 1:1 5-4-4-12 trd11

    read - 7682
    write - 9468
    copy - 6159
    latency - 68.4

    3.6cpu 450fsb 900mhz 1:1 5-4-4-12 trd10

    read - 7874
    write - 9405
    copy - 6489
    latency - 66.1

    3.6cpu 450fsb 900mhz 1:1 5-4-4-12 trd9

    read - 8067
    write - 9392
    copy - 6362
    latency - 64.0

    3.6cpu 450fsb 900mhz 1:1 5-4-4-12 trd8

    read - 8280
    write - 9403
    copy - 6152
    latency - 62.1
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    Default Re: Mushkin pc6400 X-line extreme memory

    Wow, it shoudl for sure post at trd 7, My Blue sticks do on P35 @900 so these for sure should. But then again I think the 2x2 may limit things in that respect because on my board at the 400 latch I have to use 9 with these @900 and my 2x1's I could use 8

    Maybe the other timings being so loose cause it to fail for ya.

    Just as a side note about that, I am pretty sure I booted in at 5 or 6 with mine at 800 last night. So maybe 900 is too much to ask out of them at 444, maybe 850? Ill do some testing here in a few under 900 and over 1000

    And ya, the trd lowering wont have such a profound affect with everything else so loose

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    well maybe auto doesn't set something loose enough or too loose? but as said in the post when i got 5-4-4-12 to boot, it set trd at 12 so i would have assumed that loose enough!

    it might have been the case that 4-4-4-12 would have been ok at a 2.4 divider but that would mean running a 375fsb which kinda strangles the bandwidth figures and defeats the object of trying to run 4-4-4-12

    i couldn't say whether 2x1 or 2x2 has a huge effect as this is the first set of performance ram i've ever bought. at 800 1:1 i could get into windows and benchmark with trd5 and 4-3-3-10 not sure on its stability though as i only ran a few mins of orthos

    i couldn't get 1066mhz to boot last night, maybe 5-5-5-15 was too tight, or mch needed +0.3 @ 533fsb but i was more interested in getting 1000mhz stable first.

    which it is! left it on orthos blend last night for 9 hours with no errors - 1000mhz 1:1 5-5-5-15 trd8
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    Default Re: Mushkin pc6400 X-line extreme memory

    555-15 Trd 10 - 1:1 at 533 FSB (OC Profile 1200)



    Coulda still been tweaked a bit, I just did not have time cause I have to leave shortly

    Ya, I got trd of 5 to boot as well, and trd 4 to run in windows from memset. But that was at 2.4 multi with 333FSB. I will do some 1:1 800 testing tonight maybe and see how it goes.

    I am impressed with the 533 FSB tests and 1:1. I am going to see how high they will go sometime this week as well.

    I like 1:1, so I think I am going to have to make my CPU overclock more then 4.0 for 24/7 so I can run these at 1000 or so. But I guess I have not tested many other memory multi's yet.

    This ram is so flexible, too many options to test out really! I plan to do some 1200 tests and see how that goes as well.

    Well, I gotta leave town so see ya tonight

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    copied your settings, tried to get 533fsb to work @ 1:1 and it wasn't having any of it

    then i increased mch voltage to +0.3 which looked promising as it started loading windows, then.... i got a black screen message saying system/config was either missing or corrupt which worried me that i'd stuffed my windows install

    reloaded my stable 500fsb oc and it booted into windows and everything operated fine. does xp have the ablity to rebuild files if they get corrupted or should i be looking into doing an xp repair?!

    unless i need to be thinking about 6-6-6-18 @ 1066 and above i think i've found the ceiling of either the ram or the mch?!

    though 500fsb was orthos stable for 9 hours it crashed a relatively new game within minutes, and kept doing it until i dropped the fsb to 475 and ran the ram1:1 @ 950mhz.

    odd, eh?

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    Default Re: Mushkin pc6400 X-line extreme memory

    Well my settings above are not what is set in the BIOS. If you would like my specific 533 FSB BIOS settings let me know and I can post them for you, if I did before they are for sure changed now as I got it a bit more stable I think?

    Yes, you can repair things with XP. But often you will see warnings like that if ram settings are to far off to load windows

    Yeah, it may take you a bit of tweaking to get 500 FSB stable for gaming, there is MANY settings that affect it

    You should for sure not have to use CAS 6 at 1066. If you do want to run the ram high, I would suggest maybe a lower FSB and a Ram multi. It will take you less tweaking for sure this way. If you do want some help with 500 FSB, post your settings and I will see what I can advise

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    i think everything has been turned on its head a bit

    i realised last night i was reading the wrong temperature from occt which uses implementations of a few temperature reporting tools - core temp, everest etc.

    i was reading system temp rather than northbridge temp which would explain why what i thought was the nb temp moved hardly at all!

    at full load - orthos/occt at 500fsb northbridge temps get to 51-52c is this ok?! i have no will to destroy my mobo anytime soon so if it is the case i'll have to back off my overclock, then so be it.

    i would use a divider but it seems running the ram + fsb at different speeds just kills the read/write/copy when you could use a slightly higher fsb @ 1:1 and get better figures

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    Default Re: Mushkin pc6400 X-line extreme memory

    System, motherboard and NB temp are one in the Same in different programs.

    See here a comparison with various apps, and how I have labeled OCCT custom Temps. NB Temp does rarely move except at full load especially if you have redone your NB paste or have a fan on it. Mine only ever varies from 34/35 - 38/40

    Motherboard/NB/System temps in Orange, CPU Temp in Blue, Core Temps in Teal (OCCT Values are incorrect for core temps as I did Used the Built in sensor to show you NB Comparison and it is not calibrated properly) >>>>

    <a href="http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snap2tr2.png" target="_blank"><img src="http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4762/snap2tr2.th.png" border="0" /></a>

    Just want you to be aware the the NB temp and System temps are one in the same, so depending on what you were using to see these values they may have differered if not configured properly for P45. Newest OCCT is here, not sure though if it is properly configured though, have not tested myself >>>
    Intel Burn Test ~ LinX ~ OCCT Download

    *Pre-Post Edit*

    Yes, it is properly configured for NB and CPU already, no need to edit (Core temps are still a bit off though) >>>


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    Default Re: Mushkin pc6400 X-line extreme memory

    on my board (GA P35-DS3L) there are 2 motherboard/system temps labelled 'TMPIN0' and 'TMPIN1'

    TMPIN0 is shown via CPU Core 4 - it varies between about 4-5c

    TMPIN1 is labelled 'northbridge' and as you can see between the pics rises 20c in 4 seconds! it levels off after a few minutes at 50c but its still enough to concern
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