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    Default GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    So i put this ram into my ep45-ds3l and i bumped into the most unstable system i've seen. Now, i sent the ram back, since the Memtest 86 gave errors unless i tried the sticks separately. My retailer RMAed, and said the ram workerd fine.

    Which only leaves the option of a wrong bios config. If anyone can give me a hand to propperly configure this ram in my bios i'd really appreciate it.

    The only thing i changed was the timings to 5-5-5-15 and voltage to 2.1 since its the info supplied in the ram's box and stickers. Thing is, apparently that's not enough.

    THanks.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Yes, it likely did. Works well in your board as well

    2x2 or more needs several things manually adjusted in the BIOS.

    You need to set trfc to 52-62, set MCH Voltage to 1.2-1.3, and possibly some other things as well depending on what else you have set.

    Do you have the sticks back and installed now? If so, please post me your full settings and system specs and I will advise >>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............:
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................:


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<<
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<<
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: <<
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Thanks for the insanely quick response! I'll get my sticks back from my retailer tomorrow. As soon as i get them back in, ill fill that template up for you, and try those changes you suggested.

    Thanks a lot

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Good luck, and yes Post back and I will help ya get going

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Well i just got back my sticks, installed them and changed the settings you told me, gonna try out the stability to see if this does the trick ^,^

    Otherwise i'll keep giving you headaches with the template you left me.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Seems im not there yet. Still getting blue screens when i run programs like games or Photoshop or 3ds max.

    Processor: Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16 GHz
    Motherboard: GA-EP45-DS3L
    Ram: G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK ddr2-1066 PC2-8500 2048x2 CL5-5-5-15 2.0-2.1V
    VGA: Gigabyte 8800GTX
    So here goes the info:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [9 x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.16GHz (333x9.5)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [ 0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [ 0ps]


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................4 [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................4 [Auto]
    tWR............................................8 [Auto]
    tRFC...........................................68[Auto]
    tRTP...........................................4 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.25000V [Auto]
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [1.300V]
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [2.100V]
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Before you get to using programs and such please get your ram going so you dont get so frustrated. Use Memtes86+ and test until you dont get errors.

    For now try this, these are loose and should pass memtest, then lower slowly as suggested in Parentheses >>>>

    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [FAST]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [9 x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.16GHz (333x9.5)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [ 0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [ 100-200ps]


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333] << set Trd, Voltages and then ONLY this and reboot and then you can change the rest

    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [3.20]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Set to highest for now, then tweak lower one at a time testing between each move

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................(3-4) 5
    tWTR..........................................(3-6) 12
    tWR............................................ (4-6)14
    tRFC...........................................(48-52) 62
    tRTP...........................................(3-6) 6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066

    Channel A & B
    Static tRead Value.........................: (6-7) 8-9 for now

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Okay i just finished changing everything you suggested in your last post and started the memtest. Would you say 1 pass is enough? I used to get errors on every single pass before, so i think 1 pass is enough.

    Anyways, whats the benefit of lowering things if i get a pass like this? Are there any major performance differences by lowering the advanced timings?

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Well not really, you should let it run overnight when you have time to be sure. But if you are in a hurry you can test your games and Apps to see if you still get BSOD's now

    Yes, lower timings are much better, especially Static Tread, twr, twtr, and trrd

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L problems with GSkill f2-8500cl5d-4gbpk (2x2gb)

    Memtest showed 2 errors in slot 0 at 15% and froze. ON the second test i run it froze at 15% again but without showing any errors.
    Last edited by Esupaiku; 10-09-2008 at 01:11 AM.

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