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    Default GA-EP45-DS3L with G.Skill memory

    Hi,
    I just built a new machine and am having problems getting it to run stable. I have the following installed:
    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DS3L
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500
    G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) (F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ)
    ASUS EAH3450
    I wonít be doing any overclocking. I am running bios F9. When I run Memtest86 2.01 the computer will eventually freeze. The longest it will run is about 2 minutes. Iíve tried different settings based on search online, but Iíve never had to adjust timing settings on any previous computer build so this is kinda new to me.
    My question is will this memory run on this motherboard and if so, what settings work? If this memory isnít recommended, what should I get? 2 Gigabytes of RAM should be fine, as this will be running Windows Home Server, but I could go more if there is better recommended memory.
    Thanks,
    Shawn
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    Need to check DDR voltage in the M.I.T. Section of the BIOS

    Your memory is rated at 1.8 ~2.0 volts. Since your memory is running unstable at 1.8v default try upping it to 2.0v.

    Go to the M.I.T. section/DDR Overvoltage and set to +.20.

    Same section, for Standard DRAM Timings Selectable on AUTO might read 5-7-7-24 top (to bottom) in blue. If on Manual you can keep 5-7-7-24(loose - slow) with separate timings on AUTO or change to 5-5-5-15 (tighter - faster) manually.

    Same with Advanced DRAM Timings. Recommend you leave on AUTO for now.

    Motherboard should be automatically adjusting timings for first boot (loose) so I doubt that is causing your errors in MemTest. However motherboard may not always adjust voltage properly so you'll need to manual increase the voltage to 2.0 to match the upper spec voltage since you are experiencing problem with 1.8.

    If still experiencing errors in MemTest increast MCH voltage +.01~.02.

    If voltage increases don't help and still keep getting memory errors, the memory modules might be defective, which is very rare with G-Skill. They are considered the best along with Mushkin.

    Good luck.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L with G.Skill memory

    So how are you getting along with this? Above suggestions should help you!

    If you do want a full set of suggested settings let me know and I can post them for you

    But yes, that ram will work in your board for sure. You may want to run memtest86+ on them one stick at a time in slot one, with manually set main timings, stock Voltage and speed to be sure you did not get a DOA stick

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L with G.Skill memory

    DavidDavisLeeSomething, thanks for your help, unfortunately Memtest still hangs. I think I followed everything in your post, but may have made a mistake.
    Anyway, Lsdmeasap if you could post the full settings, that would be great.
    I did try each stick individually and both hung so either both are bad or there is a setting I'm missing. Or I have a bad motherboard or CPU.
    When I get home from work tonight, I'll try this memory in my Shuttle PC as well as try that comupter's memory in my new Gigabyte PC.

    Thanks.

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    Well, when testing ram one by one for DOA sticks you should set Auto for most things, except main timings and memory multi, and of course ram voltage. If they fail, then they are likely DOA, but you are right one setting in Auto could be to blame (As Auto is never suggested for anything other then this) So since you can please do test them one by one in another system at stock speed, timing and voltages

    P45 does take some tweaking for sure to get going at first, especially once you start to try to manually set things.

    Here is stock suggested settings for your setup E8500 @ STOCK W/ 2x1 @ 800Mhz >>>>>

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:. 5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.16


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<<
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<<
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333] << Set voltages, tRD (Static tRead Value), then ONLY this and save and apply, then reboot back to apply the rest. Later if you like, you can loosen things up and try 400 here

    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15


    Set all highest below, then later lower one at a time, and test as you go for stability
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-4
    tWTR..........................................3-6 (May/will need 12 to start, then lower once you can boot thru)

    tWR............................................4-6 (May/will need 14 to start, then lower once you can boot thru)
    tRFC...........................................36-40 (Set to 42 first)
    tRTP...........................................3-6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................800

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10 (may need 8 at first, for sure will have to be 8 or above if you test out 400 MCH latch)

    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10 (may need 8 at first, for sure will have to be 8 or above if you test out 400 MCH latch)

    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.14 For stability, not a must
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L with G.Skill memory

    Lsdmeasap, thanks again for your help.
    I tried the settings you suggested and no go. I also tried using 4 GB (2x2 GB) of Corsair XMS memory from my other machine and they failed as well (they passed fine in my Shuttle PC).
    I think at this point I'm just going to RMA the motherboard and try something else.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-DS3L with G.Skill memory

    Well, the board is fine, you just have to try harder to get your ram started. The G.Skill is best for your board

    How far did you get, have you got it to boot to windows at all. What all did you try?

    P45 does take a bit more tweaking then P35, but it is for sure a nice performer once you get started

    If you RMA good luck with what you decide on

    Your board does run fine with voltages set, and ram in Auto right? If not it may be broke and you possibly should RMA it. But if it works like that, you just have to spend some quality time with it to get it going initially manually

    Wish I could stop by, I'd have ya going in a few minutes

    Good luck in whatever you decide to do

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