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    Default Initial & Optimal settings for Mushkin XP2-8500 2x4GB RAM?

    Ok, I sent back the cheap Crucial XMS2 RAM and splurged on the Mushkin XP2-8500 4GB RAM (x2 so I'm running 8GB).

    I am happy to say that now the system booted right up with all 4 sticks installed. Woo hoo!

    So, now I want more. MORE DAMMIT! Heh heh...

    Can the Gigabyte gurus, especially LSDMEASAP suggest the best settings to get my system rockin? Here's my specs:

    Antec Sonata III case
    Antec NeoHE 550 power supply
    Gigabyte EP45-DS3R motherboard (bios rev F10)
    Intel E8500-E0 CPU using Zalman CNPS9500AT cooler
    2x (8GB) Mushkin 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) p/n 996599
    EVGA/Nvidia Geforce 260 core 216 video card

    I'm looking to overclock while keeping the system stable. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Default Re: Initial & Optimal settings for Mushkin XP2-8500 2x4GB RAM?

    try this for a 4GHz OC, which shouldnt be a problem with the board you've got

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.00GHz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 421MHz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100MHz <--Always 100!!

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control
    CPU Clock Drive...........................:800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................:900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: Auto or 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50-150


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 333MHz or 400MHz
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1120MHz (421x2.66=1119.6)
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time............................. 5
    tRCD .............................................. 5
    tRP'.............................................. ... 5
    tRAS.............................................. .. 12-15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-6
    tWTR.......................................... 4-8
    tWR............................................3-8
    tRFC...........................................55-62
    tRTP...........................................4-7
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value............................:7-11
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value..........................:7-11
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.375V (as a starting point... if you can't get to Windows, increase it... if you get to Windows then your rig dies, decrease it)
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: Auto (or you can manually set as 1.3V)
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Auto (should be fine)
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.2-1.35V
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........:Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........:Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............:Auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............:Auto

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.3V (off the top i think thats it, you might need a bit more tho)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    hope that works out for you

    EDIT: Oh yeah, make sure you've got good cooling on that CPU... and i like your choice in GPUs, thats actually a really nice card, is it the OCed version or the standard?
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    Default Re: Initial & Optimal settings for Mushkin XP2-8500 2x4GB RAM?

    Thanks, I'll try that as soon as I get my latest problem (RAID) sorted out. I'll post that one up on another thread.

    edit: here: http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ep45...43/#post263342

    And yeah, I'm really impressed with the 260. Got its the evga superclocked edition. Runs freakin hot though, just running the Nvidia demos it peaked at 70C, and that's with no additional overclocking!

    Althought in it's defense it was hot here in the home office today, and from what I understand they run pretty hot anyway.
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    Default Re: Initial & Optimal settings for Mushkin XP2-8500 2x4GB RAM?

    i replied to that thread and saw you got that running, so give those settings a try... and maybe run Memtest86+ as well (get it here -> Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool).

    Yeah when you stick 24 more stream processors with the same cooler, then jack up the clocks you know you're gonna get a bit of heat... dont worry about it too much, it should run just fine up to about 80-85C, but really id like it a bit cooler than that
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    Default Re: Initial & Optimal settings for Mushkin XP2-8500 2x4GB RAM?

    Wiz,

    Yeah, thanks on the help,

    On the sata-raid/sata-dvd boot issue I guess I can always boot off my USB key and manually start stuff off the DVD if necessary, that should work most the time...

    On the overclock suggestion, no dice. I didn't expect it to be so easy... In my previous experiences in overclocking it has always been a difficult path for some reason (bad luck?). Although I understand this mobo to be an easy overclocker, I guess I'm going to have to take the long road, probably reboot 100 times in the process. *sigh* At least it keeps me out of the bars at night..

    Would you have a suggested more conservative starting point for the overclock? That might save me 15 reboots right there. heh.

    Oh, on the more stream processors comment, yeah, although my understanding is that the manufacturer 'speed-bins' the cores - the perfect chips go on to become 280s, the minor defects chips get their bad SPs cut out with a laser, and the more defect chips get more SPs cut out.

    In other words, all Nvidia did with the core 216 product was create a middle-speedbin, which makes sense when you think about it, why make a single SP failure into a 260 when you can sell it for more as a 260 core 216? I'm not sure if those disabled SPs consume power though, that's an interesting question...

    Anyhow, thanks for the help, keep the suggestions coming...

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    Default Re: Initial & Optimal settings for Mushkin XP2-8500 2x4GB RAM?

    For 8GB I would start here (Hope you know your CPU voltage, if not best to raise it up and lower later)

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.04


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 425Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 50-100
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 100-200


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [400] << Set Voltages, then Static tRead and reboot, then only set this and reboot again. Then you can set the rest

    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 850
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15/18

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-5
    tWTR..........................................3-6 (May need 8-14 to start)
    tWR............................................4-6 (May need 10-16 to start)
    tRFC...........................................52-80
    tRTP...........................................3-8
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:9-12
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:9-12
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.325-1.35 ACTUAL (Bios setting may need to be 1.38 or more)
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.34
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< 1.56
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.25-1.35
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.08
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Initial & Optimal settings for Mushkin XP2-8500 2x4GB RAM?

    Just curious, when you guys give a range of values, what end of the range do you suggest I start at?

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    start with your timings as loose as you can, then if you can boot, you can tighten them up one at a time... if the range is really wide, you might be able to tighten it 2 or 3 clock cycles at atime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    How you coming along with this?
    Thanks for following up, L...

    Sorry about not responding sooner - I wanted to add a fan to keep things cool before subjecting my shiny new system to overclocking and it took a few days get that done and to get apps installed, etc. As it is, now I've got a nice 120mm fan blowing down over the ram & northbridge chip at a 45-degree angle and things are much much cooler now!

    But my results are mixed, at best. First, here's what I did:

    Following your instructions (with a little interpretation) I set:

    Voltage:
    CPU Vcore = 1.35
    CPU Termination = 1.34
    CPU PLL = 1.57 (closest available setting to your recommended 1.56)
    CPU Reference = 1.873 (.755 * 64% = .8576 rounded to .875 nearest setting)
    (btw there is no CPU Reference2 setting in this bios that I can find)

    ICH/MCH:
    MCH Core = 1.34 (closest avail to your recommended 1.35)
    MCH Reference = .760 (you say 'leave' but refer to stock setting of .800?)
    MCH I/O = 1.500 (again you say 'leave' but refer to a stock setting of 1.550)

    DRAM:
    DRAM Voltage = 2.08

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Skew = 100
    MCH Clock Skew = 200

    DRAM Performance Control:
    Performance Enhance = STANDARD
    System Memory Multiplier = 2.00D
    DRAM Timing Selectable = MANUAL

    Standard Timing Control:
    CAS = 5
    tRCD = 5
    tRP = 5
    tRAS = 18

    Advanced Timing Control:
    tRRD = 5
    tWTR = 14
    tWR = 16
    tRFC = 80
    tRTP = 8
    Command Rate = 2

    At this point I rebooted and could POST and boot to Vista (x64) at the stock 333 FSB speed.

    So, I rebooted, entered the BIOS, saved the BIOS profile to a 'RAID & Perf 1' slot, then set:

    CPU Host Frequency = 425

    Saved & rebooted. System would POST but not boot windows. Rebooted and backed off to CPU Host Frequency = 400, rebooted, and could POST and boot to windows. System appears stable. Saved as a 'RAID & Perf 2' CMOS profile slot.

    I ran the IntelBurnTest, and was pretty concerned with what I saw.

    The CPU temp peaked at 72C. Ouch! The warning buzzed sounded because that's what I had set to trigger at 70C... The temp didnt go over 72C, but this is a little warm for my comfort-zone...

    At default voltages & 333 FSB, the temp never exceeds 55C.

    So currently I'm a little uncomfortable running at even 3.8GHz (400 FSB) and haven't even started to tighten the ram timings due to the high CPU temps.

    So I guess the first question is, am I doing everything right?

    Second, is the Intel BurnTest (really just Linpack/64) a reasonable test of the system?

    I did notice that apps like a quick crysis run, and work in my CAD software (autodesk Inventor) didn't tax the CPU nearly as much. <?>

    I also notice that the system is consuming about 20W more power at idle. This isn't a good thing IMHO, although I'm willing to live with it if I can get more than a marginal performance boost. From what I can tell, I'm not getting any frame-rate/performance boost, although this is probably due to the currently relaxed memory settings.

    What benchmark do you suggest to start measuring real-world performance?

    Could be the CPU cooler? Currently I'm running a Zalman 9500 which is supposed to be a great cooling solution while keeping pretty quiet... I carefully mounted it according to the instructions using ArcticSilver 5, could there be a air-bubble in the thermal grease?

    Sorry for all the questions, but this is where I'm stuck... Until I get the cooling issues worked out, and hear from you, I'm going to back off to the stock settings (which aren't so bad - my last system was a athlon3800, so I'm already seeing a huge perf boost over that!)

    Your (and bongwiz, youre input is welcome!) thoughts are much appreciated!

    Thanks...
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