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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    this PSU is a Modular one, and stands by the recommendations of amd-ati.
    my system produce 400w under full load, 225w left, so its hell of alot headroom for OC.
    im gonna try these cores and timings when im back from school,
    so if i understood it right, i should leave the mch latch at 400, what is this latch for?
    ok so the changing from last time will be|(correct me if im wrong):
    all the cores, timings, mch skew 100ps instead of 0 and mch latch 400(as last time)\333\auto.
    isn't that weird, that it didnt even boot?
    maybe i have a bad chip :< anyways im gonna fight it as i did thse past 2 weeks.

    Thank you alot for your help guys, ill check updates in 5 hours(school).

    EDIT:
    just noticed something about my RAM, i've tried 2.0v, maybe i need 2.1? but i'm abit afraid about it, though they are very good ram with an excellent cooler, what is the timing table in CPU-Z under SPD, i have there 3 options, 2 of them have 1.8 v(5-5-5-18\4-4-4-13(12)) and 2.1v (4-4-4-12) :| wtf XD
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-10-2008 at 12:57 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    Well, what about the rails? What does your card require for the 12V rail for amps, and what does your PSU output?

    If it is a dual rail then you could likely have a issue with it and that card. A Strong Single rail is best

    MCH latch is the FSB timing

    Ya, you want to use 2.1 then since your SPD has it in there!!! WTF is right!

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Well, what about the rails? What does your card require for the 12V rail for amps, and what does your PSU output?

    If it is a dual rail then you could likely have a issue with it and that card. A Strong Single rail is best

    MCH latch is the FSB timing

    Ya, you want to use 2.1 then since your SPD has it in there!!! WTF is right!
    well by looking here its 3 rails each one @25a , combined 50a,the card needs approx 26-30 i think.
    so what timings should i try? 4-4-4-12 at 2.1v ot 5-5-5-18 at 2.1v?
    and just something i've just remembered i dont have the option VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGY.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    ok just tried to do all the settings u've told me , with 2.1v.
    and it just didnt boot...again... what could be wrong?
    some notes:
    i dont have the option for ICH CORE, just MCH.
    mch clock skew, should i touch it? cause this ske and cpu skew is on 0, and the first 2 are 800 and 900 respectively.
    wow i think im a dead end, its probably the worst case u had xDD, i think my pc is cursed, i'll try to sue my STORE.
    and thank you very much for ur help.
    EDIT:
    EVEREST SHOWS DIMM 1.9 :O although im on stock again ><(1.8).
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-10-2008 at 08:46 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    ok i tried this thing,listen carefully.
    loaded optimized settings, so everything default, but the only change i've done was setting the timings, BAM!!! it didnt boot!!!! so this is why my pc doesnt boot, its ram related!! what should i do?
    now the next thing was kinda terrifing.
    didn't touch timings and such, just basic stuff, pci,performance standart and stuff, bumped vcore to 1.35, 400*8, mch core 1.34
    and damn igot a heart attacke , after it did restart by its own (saved changes and exit) it started beeping rapidly , bipbipbip (2bips every second) swithough slowing down(not as heart pulse, i mean the rythem is the same between every bip).
    what's wrong now? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    this is my RAM:
    http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/T...-6400C4DHX.pdf

    wow im really sorry for all those posts, im just really desperate!
    thank you really :D
    just found out:
    http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p...6400_4gb_kit/3

    i've seen them using 2.3v :|||| that's insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-11-2008 at 12:42 AM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    ok i ran memtest for 48 min(1 test pass no errors) is that enough?
    i've read some of ur posts which say that corsair memo is not that good for GA mobos.
    i can replace them for one of these:
    2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 800
    2x2GB OCZ Reaper HPC Edition Dual Channel 1066mhz
    2x2GB TransCend aXeRam (TX1066QLU-4GK)

    WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH A PAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN,
    I dont know if its mobo related or RAM RELATED, the only thing i've done now, going from optimized settings just 1 change:
    copied the timings from the SPD timing table from CPU-Z
    at 270mhz 4-4-4-13, and it's 1.8v :\
    god it failed 2 boot and went crazyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, it did 10 auto resets in 20 seconds :\\\ please help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :<
    or just comment, anything just to see ur a live, to see that my mobo\ram didnt kill u as it's killing mehhhh. :(
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-11-2008 at 02:11 AM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    I would recommend Mushkin, G.Skill, or Geil. OCZ is on my list as not so great with GA boards as well.

    Transcend Axe, I have used in my own boards for testing, but not very much testing. Worked fine.

    Do not worry if you do not see a voltage or setting in my template it may not be available on your board, or you dont have the latest BIOS (Or didnt properly flash to the latest)

    I do think it is just your settings though and your ram is fine. Have you tested each stick one at a time with memtest on another system?

    Can you post with optimized defaults, and change ONLY MCH voltage (try 1.3 and less then 1.1) And manually set the ram voltage voltage to 2.1, leave everything else as it is

    And that Triple Rail is likely not good for that card either, Strong Single rail is best

    Well wait, you was at 3.2 right? Please post back for me the last setting you used you can boot with and I will advise you >>>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    thank you for replying ^^ im gonna try the mch and dram core's now on optimized defaults.
    i just ran memtest as it is with both sticks, i mean i inserted the cd restarted (in bios i made it first read the cd rom, i dont know why but it was floppy :S)
    it booted and started the test, i just tested for 48 so it was PASS 1, ERROR 0.

    how much time do i need to test?
    and btw i cant test one at a time, i cant open my case because of my waranty, if i open the case,they may tell me, u have no waranty now, they have like red stickers that show if it was opened.

    and i did succesfully boot, but prime fail here:


    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................:


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 320 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: AUTO
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: spd 2.0D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 640
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [auto]

    Standard Timing Control i didnt touch anything of these everyting is on auto
    CAS Latency Time........................4
    tRCD .........................................4
    tRP'...........................................4
    tRAS..........................................12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto some of ther things here are not auto, +1 normal and such
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.3 arround 1.3
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave 1 increment higher
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.15
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from
    USB

    this was giving me error in 36 sec in orthos,:S not sure about the V of the ram, i think 1.8 gave me BSOD and 1.9 was normal.
    </pre>

    EDIT:
    ok it did boot up with 1.3 mch and 2.1 ram , so with 1.05 mch and 2.1 RAM.
    everything was fine(with other detailed optimized)
    and btw i've read some of ur posts\articles about overclock, and the thing that happened to me when i changed the timings to 4-4-4-13 while everything else optimized, was called by you "GA got wild" and "mobo is not happy" XDD with the beepings.
    about the PSU:http://ati.amd.com/products/certifie...rsupplies.html

    the thing is that this PSU is "OVERCLOCKABLE" i mean, it can handle 700W with ease.
    and up to 30 amp @ a single rail, i've just looked at EVEREST, and it shows it delivers 28.5 amp for the card :D
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-11-2008 at 03:43 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    i inserted the cd restarted (in bios i made it first read the cd rom, i dont know why but it was floppy :S)
    PLEASE Leave Floppy set as first boot device!!! ALWAYS, and if you do not have a floppy installed order one. They are $5-8 and can save you from a RMA

    If you need to boot from CD Just hit F12 at post and choose boot from CD

    WHAT? Who built this system?

    I never heard of a Overclocking board in a system where you could not open the case! What if you wanted to add new ram or a nw GFX card?

    I say WTF to that, and if you are worried I would for sure be calling and asking these types of things. I mean shzt, if you got a new bad arse video card and 4GB of new ram tomorrow what are you suppose to do with it? Thats how I would ask.

    That cant be true about them, I mean you cant open it? WOW, I guess you would be returning it soon if that was true as it would load up with dust within a year and likely start on fire or short out

    Here, see if this helps you any >>>

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................:3200
    
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 320 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]  After 400 FSB raise to 400, and use Letter D below
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 768
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [auto]
    
    Standard Timing Control i didnt touch anything of these
    CAS Latency Time........................4
    tRCD .........................................4
    tRP'...........................................4
    tRAS..........................................12
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................52-62
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................800 or 1066
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10 (7 and under 333 MCH only so only memory multiplier with  A, B, or C can use 7 or less) 8-10 for 400 MCH or Multi's with a D.  Same applies for the lower one 
    
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto some of ther things here are not auto, +1 normal and such << Make these all under Static tRead AUTO
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.3 arround 1.3 << will need more as you go up, 1.3 is really about 1.24 in windows
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave 1 increment higher 1.25-1.35 as you get above 400 FSB, if you do
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.15 << maybe 1.24
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

  10. #20

    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    XD well, tbh if i buy new *stuff*, i should go to them and they install it, but its damn far,i say *bad word* at them :< im gonna call them XD thx for supporting :P
    next time im gonna go to them (SOON!!!) i will buy a floppy sounds like i rly need it XD

    im gonna print these settings, and try, ill be off for approx 3 hours, so i report in about 3 and a half.

    thank you so much for your help, really, didnt know people are capable to help me XD
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-11-2008 at 04:13 PM.

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