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    :) ran orthos for 2 hours, playing FIFA09 at the time i was stressing the cpu with orthos, its stable, so i think i dont need to run memtest for 4 hours now,or should I?
    ready to help me to get over 3.33? :D
    i have some questions though:
    1.If i format my pc, to install windows vista 64, will the bios change to default or not? and will saved BIOS be deleted?, anyways can i install 64 bit over 32bit? without formatting nor using dualboot?
    2.maybe i wont go to the store, if we manage to get it to 3.6ghz,or maybe i should?

    here is a site which overclocked E7200 to 4.0ghz using X48-DQ6, what is the vdrop of this mobo? anyways take a look:
    http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...el_e7200/3.htm
    god damn them temp 50\100(i think its on load!!) while mine core is on 56 on load and im with less vcore :<<<<<
    gonna try higher fsb and lower multiplier. brb
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-14-2008 at 08:56 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    wow a sad story happened to me right now, im traumatized XD.
    tried to change FSB to 400 and, multi on 8.5,mch latch 400,same timings and everything as u posted to do,vcore on 1.4bios, 1.26 mch core, pll 1.5, and all others like last time(will post exact settings in few minutes) and it booted, i ran immediately memtest, everything was fine in test #2 and #5, then i did reboot, it booted but stuck at a black dos screen with only "_" blinking, so i had to force restart, then it said that windows has found an error, enter the cd and repair bluh bluh bluh, i thought my pc was dead, repaired it and now im back in my last settings, so im not playing with anymore, only what u will say XD
    this is what im using ATM stable:
    Code:
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.33
    
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<0
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [333]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15
    
    Set all highest below first then lower later
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................11
    tWR............................................6
    tRFC..........................................56
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.3815
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.24
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< 1.5
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760.......: <<< 0.870
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1..24
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.2 DONT HAVE THIS OPTION!!!
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1
    
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    this is what i tried for 3.4


    Code:
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.40
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<50
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<150
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [400]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.0D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15
    
    Set all highest below first then lower later
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................11
    tWR............................................6
    tRFC..........................................56
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.4
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< 1.24
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< 1.5
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: <<< 0.870
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1..26
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.2 DONT HAVE THIS OPTION!
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.12
    
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    just thought u would wonna take a look : :D my system vs nehalm system
    http://service.futuremark.com/result...&resultType=19

    im quite happy with my results :PP
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-14-2008 at 11:46 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    Vdrop on your board is .6 or so, and vdroop will cause the voltage to go lower then that

    Yes you can install x64 over x86, but you do have to format if you want to install over it, and you will HAVE to boot from the CD

    Use 398 or 402 not 400 exact. too tight of ram timings can often cause those types of windows errors. Did you try it again to be sure it was not just a glitch? And please defrag your disk often while you are trying all these clocks. At least once a day

    Try this with your 3.4 settings >>>
    tRRD...........................................5
    tWTR..........................................12
    tWR............................................14
    tRFC..........................................58
    tRTP...........................................5

    Your main problem, and mine with this, is that you are jumping around far to much to keep track of things.

    You need to work at one specific setting, and only that until you get it stable. And it sounds like you are not running memtest86+ long enough before you start trying to go into windows. I would run a full test or 20-30 minutes of test 5 to be semi sure it is ok before trying to do much more

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    sorry for jumping around :P im hyperactive XD
    so with the same settings like i did before for 3.4 , just changing the timings as u wrote and then exactly run memtest 86 , test #5 for 45 min, and boot , and check stability ? correct me if im wrong.
    but the thing is that with the timings i've wrote, i've run #5 and #2 for 30 min each :\ and no errors.
    ok i will defrag my hard drive right now, and i have to go now, i will be back in a couple of hours and try this settings immediately!
    thank you for ur patience to me, i know im a tough one to suffer xP

    ok defragging will take a while,
    anyways i've just read that it's not good to update bios from @bios, woopsi >:)
    when i've just got my pc didnt know that, so installed the f10e and then after a week the 10f.maybe this is what causing all the trouble?
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-15-2008 at 02:28 AM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    Na, the @BIOS will either work for you, or KILL your board. So you are fine, just do not use it anymore. There is MANY other ways to flash, a windows based flash is always asking for trouble.

    I take it you never do a defrag then? You should setup a weekly defrag at least, and I often do one after many attempted/partial boots when overclocks fail as this often messes the disk up. I recommend PerfectDisk if you can get it

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    Great i will get PerfectDisk, but im gonna relax with OC for these close 2 days,because it seems it ruined my pc XD
    i defragged mypc yesterday, woke up in the morning and couldnt get to windows, every thing was black and just didnt boot, tried to repair with the CD, still didnt boot, then my dad told me to load safe mode, did that it booted, did restart, loaded in normal mode, and everything was fine.
    im going to replace the mobo today, cause of this stupid ETHERNET PLUG!!!
    it annoys me so much that they give me new pc with defects :S
    thanks alot for ur tremendous help, i've probably would have been lost without ur help, You Are Great!
    will be back in 2 days with new powers XD(i sat 24\7 these days near the pc, need to rest :<)

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    anyways i see people having problems as well as i do, getting more than 333FSB, i have the option to switch to P5Q-Pro without adding money, is it worth it? :O
    but my concerns are that i wont get help from u if its not gigabyte mobo, and i wont have this advanced options :<
    is it worth it?, oh man and i will have to uninstall the mobo drivers... god ill just replace my 45-ds3r with another ds3r, i prefer getting support :S
    my mobo temp is 50 on idle, is that high? when i first got my pc it was 55 on idle, but that's cause the video's card fan was not 55%
    Last edited by Dweirdo; 10-15-2008 at 07:03 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    Another disk thing you may want to do after or before a defrag is Checkdisk.

    They way to do that is Open a Command prompt (Windows Ket + R and type cmd in the run box). In the command box type the following or copy/paste, yes the space is necessary >>>

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    chkdsk /x /r
    Hit yes for all boxes presented to you after that and reboot and checkdisk will run and fix any issues you may have

    I cannot comment about P5Q as I have not used it myself, but yes you will have less options in the BIOS. But that could be a good thing for you as well. I would help you with things, but like I said I have not used the board so I really may not be of much help.

    As for switching to a Asus board, yes you would need to reinstall windows. Possibly not, and just update drivers but that would leave your install a mess so you should do a clean install if you switch manufacturers

    45-50 is getting warm, mine is at 36C at 450 FSB. So you may want to add a fan to it

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    hey lsd thanks for ur reply!
    im sticking with my EP45-DS3R, well it was a faulty mobo, they will replace it, so i dont have my pc for 4 days :<<<<<
    when i get my pc i will diskcheck and defrag, and start OC again.
    it's just weird it went to 50C on idle(load temp is still 50) and after increasing voltage to MCH, it even went down! to 48C!! that was weird!!!
    and by adding a fan u mean taking a 80mm fan and put it on the nbridge? how much does it cost approx(range)?
    so once i get my pc back(they said that maybe they will replace my cpu as well, cause of the sensor not working,but they dont know that intel doesnt care about the sensors :D i hope they wont find it out neither,cause its not in the guarantee as far as i know :P)
    i will open a new thread as soon as i get it!
    thank you for everything LSD!!
    cheers,
    Daniel

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    Default Re: Ep45-DS3R with E7300 need serious help :<

    So what happened? Did they test it and find the board to be faulty?

    Yeah, I meant a 40-50MM fan on the NB, either pointing down towards your GFX card so it blows across the NB, or directly on top of the NB blowing downward. A 80MM fan would do, but may be a bit to big to fit in there easily. Fans are cheap normally, you could get a decent 40MM one for $3-6, and if you could fit a 80MM one you could buy one for $5-8 anywhere.. Or if you do have some extra $$ (About $18-20 + Shipping) I would suggest a ThermalTake Extreme Spirit II (CL-C0034) for your NB, they work great and are a quality product for sure.

    They will likely not give you a New CPU, just tell you they did. I always mark things witha UV marker to be sure when I RMA that I do not get back the same item. But ya never know, maybe they will. Even if they do you may still have a faulty CPU Sensor, as many New 45Nm CPU's have them

    Well good luck on your RMA, hope you are not out of a PC to long I know that can be terrible

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