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    Default EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    Hello, I recently upgraded my old asus motherboard, ram and cpu because i suspected failings, mainly mobo mem slots. Now i bought a brand new Gigabyte EP45 DS3P, 2 sticks of 1gb Hyper X 1066 mem and a intel 8500 (3.16 ghz) cpu.

    My current specs

    8800gt 512mb
    2x1g 1066
    8500 3.16ghz
    EP45 DS3P
    2x750gb Raided samsung
    450w PSU
    Dvd-rw

    I installed the new mobo with ram/cpu onboard into my case(iCute) plugged everything in and tried to boot (with my old 600w psu). But something was causing the cpu_led to flash and the system rebooted before it could even intillise bios. I swaped the 2 mem sticks from the 0, 2 slots to the 1, 3 slots and it booted. (odd). i next installed my raid then windows. Now heres the fun bit, it starts blue screening randomly (about twice a day) with nothing linking them. IRQL_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL is the message displayed i think, once i got a BAD_POOL_CALLER. I have also had a few random freezes. I pulled out the power and switched my ram for 2x1g 800 mem. They work fine in the yellow slots it seems. About an hour later i get the IRQL bluescreen again, now before i could write down the message my screen cuts out and system reboots. I installed an antec 450w psu and switched plugs on the wall. Still bluescreened random. (i started installing software before bluescreen and didnt make a backup =|) shuffling the sticks around doesnt seem to help either. My vaultages with my 450w are all as they should be... a bit over but only about .01 .

    Also, my new hardware seems to lag on some games which i never lagged on before i upgraded. Some are much better then my old system i.e (crysis) but i still feel asif my computer is slower than it should be. I have tried reinstalling these games, reinstalling the latest nvidia drivers, searched for virus/malware/spyware. But all for naught...

    I will post more of the troubleshooting i've done once i confirm with somebody.

    Please help ^^ and ask for any additional infomation i forgot, this is the 2nd computer i've had in a row that just seems to have constant problems (have had this new system for about a week).

    Regards Spoony, contact me via pm or deakinsz@hotmail.com or just here.
    Last edited by Spoonysam; 10-23-2008 at 12:48 PM.

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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    Sounds like ram settings to me. First off please test each one of your 1066 sticks at stock timings and manually set voltages with Memtest86+ to be sure you did not get sent a dead/dying stick >>>
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

    You did load optimized defaults for your system once you got up and running right? If not, you should do this. Load optimized defaults in the BIOS, save and apply and reboot BACK TO THE BIOS. You MUST do this to set your disk settings again for your RAID array, if you do not and let windows try to load you will corrupt your array. By the way, you are using the latest BIOS right? If not, please do go ahead and update it (DO NOT USE @BIOS) please see this for your various Qflash and flashing options >>>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/

    P45 is a bit tricky, especially with ram and ram timings. I would assume this is likely your IRQ_Less... Issue, and probably also you game performance issue as well

    Also be sure you also set Init First Display to PEG in integrated Peripherals page for the first PCIE slot (Peg2 for the second if you are using it)

    Then please post for me what settings you are trying to use and I will advise you of what would be best for your setup and CPU speed. Ohh, you can put back in your larger PSU as I doubt highly this is the issue >>>>


    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above)
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL stop errors are caused by software not hardware. When Windows is in the middle of scheduling an execution thread, it puts the processor at an Interrupt ReQuest Level (or IRQL) of ‘Dispatch’. This blocks further software interrupts from the scheduler until the process is complete, and nothing else is allowed to do anything that requires the scheduler to act. accessing a memory address in virtual memory is such an activity, because when a process generates a VM page fault, it is usually suspended while the slow hard disk gets around to delivering the requested page. The upshot of this is that drivers (and everything else but especially drivers) are restricted to the contents of physical memory while the IRQL is at dispatch. If anything breaks this rule (say because a corrupted pointer tries to access a random memory address), XP flings up the BSOD.

    So the short answer is, you've got a driver issue. You can try reducing the size of your page file (for XP My Computer -> Proerpties -> Advanced -> Performance -> Advanced and then hit the Change button at the bottom)... 2GB or less should be fine, even if Windows recommends more. If this doesn't work, download and install the latest driver revision for your card (GeForce Release 178) and the latest OnBoard Sound and SATA drivers (although it could be your LAN driver as well if the connection is receiving/sending something and errs during the IRQL state) for your mobo (GIGABYTE - Support - Motherboard - Driver - GA-EP45-DS3P (rev. 1.0)).

    And if all else fails, try doing a clean reinstall of Windows and install the newest drivers for all your hardware.

    EDIT: also, you might try flashing your BIOS to a newer revision before trying a full install of Windows.
    NZXT Lexa BlackLine Case with Red LEDs
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    Gigabyte EP45-DS3P (BIOS F7)
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 @ 3.73GHz (downclocked for the summer )
    OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU Heatsink
    2x 2GB Kingston HyperX RAM PC2-6400 @ 996MHz (4-5-5-15)
    3x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB HDD in RAID5
    2x HIS Radeon HD 4850 @ 745/1090 in CrossFireX
    2x ThermalTake DuOrb GPU Heatsink
    D-Link Super G PCI WLAN Adapter
    Asus Lightscribe 20x SATA II DVD-DL Burner
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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    Thanks, i will do all that is mentioned above. Just give me a bit.

    Thankyou for responding so quickly

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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    Bong, I can cause the same BSOD with incorrect timings as well, but ya you are right for sure too. Just wanted to comment to you that it can indeed be timings too tight as well.

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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    yeah you could if you lowered you tRAS enough that it caused the data to become corrupted... its just that in my experience this type of error usually comes from software interface issues
    NZXT Lexa BlackLine Case with Red LEDs
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    Gigabyte EP45-DS3P (BIOS F7)
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 @ 3.73GHz (downclocked for the summer )
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    2x 2GB Kingston HyperX RAM PC2-6400 @ 996MHz (4-5-5-15)
    3x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB HDD in RAID5
    2x HIS Radeon HD 4850 @ 745/1090 in CrossFireX
    2x ThermalTake DuOrb GPU Heatsink
    D-Link Super G PCI WLAN Adapter
    Asus Lightscribe 20x SATA II DVD-DL Burner
    Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro
    2x 22" LG W2252TQ-PF Widescreen LCD Monitor (YAY!! Finally got the second one!!)

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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    Yeap, that and also To low of tRD can cause MANY BSOD's unrelated to the actual issue at hand, such as a IRQ BSOD. Memory often causes issues that seem unrelated for some reason

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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    woohoo, currently after installing another psu and putting the 2x 1066 ram back in the computer fails to boot. the phase leds flashed for a few milliseconds and then the normaly red dormant phase light switches to orange and attempts to boot all fail. Puting back old 600w power supply, i dont know why. Why wont **** just work :'(, no i havnt run my finger up and down the contacts or zapped my mobo. =| this is getting rediculus i'm starting to wonder if i have some fault within my house electrics or ... just insaine bad luck.

    Old 600w wont work either =/ please advise

    Also very slight movement on the graphics card fan.
    Only thing unusual was we hit the pause button on the keyboard so we could read the bios version. Then went off to dinner, when we returned the computer was off and failed to reboot. could it be stuck in a weird power save level?
    Last edited by Spoonysam; 10-23-2008 at 06:10 PM.

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    Default Re: EP45 DS3P - Wide Range of Problems Help please

    changed graphics card from 8800gt to 7900gt... Woot looks like my gcard is once again broken (i've had 3 faulty 8800gt's issued to me before this one) looks like there was a little cable jamming the fan, hope like hell it didnt short circut. any ideas?
    Last edited by Spoonysam; 10-23-2008 at 06:27 PM.

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