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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Ok cheers i'll give them a go.

    One other query if i may. When using my safe settings (the ones i posted from the first page) everythings fine but when the computers idle i.e ive no programmes open whilst in CPU-z i can see the Processor Voltage, CPU Multiplier and Core speed fluctuate or step down.

    Voltage drops to about 1.15v from 1.25v and at the same time the CPU Multiplier goes down to 6x from 9x and the Core speed drops from 2400 to 1600. Its like its slowing the cpu down as somekind of power saving feature. Of course when i start a programme they return to normal an ive not had any problems, but my question is can this feature be turned off? If yes is it a BIOS setting that just needs disabling? Does it need to be on or can i run with the feature disabled?

    EDIT: Figured the answer to this out, its Speedstep kicking in which is the CPU EIST Function in the BIOS, im going to Disable it for OC'ing.

    Thanks again, Buz.
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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Well with latest BIOS settings given to me from page 2, im getting the same result. Comp boots with continuous beeping twice, then boots for a second, then boots normally and freezes during or just after the Windows load screen?!?

    Heres the setting i tried last:-

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio..................: 0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.0 (333 x 9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: Enabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: 100
    C.I.A.2 ..............................: Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 150

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: STANDARD
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).......: -----
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier .............: 3.20b
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ...............: Manual
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time......................: AUTO 5
    tRCD .................................: AUTO 5
    tRP'..................................: AUTO 5
    tRAS..................................: AUTO 15
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..................................: 6
    tWTR..................................: 12
    tWR...................................: 14
    tRFC..................................: 68
    tRTP..................................: 4
    Command Rate (CMD) ...................: 2
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength .....................: 1066
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value....................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value....................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type....... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore.............................: 1.450v
    CPU Termination...... 1.200V*.........: 1.30v
    CPU PLL...........1.500V*.............: 1.500v
    CPU Referen.........0.755V*...........: Auto
    CPU Reference2...,,0.800V*............: Auto
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core..........1.100V..............: 1.26v
    MCH Reference.....0.800V..............: Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref........0.900V............: Auto
    ICH I/O...........1.550V..............: 1.500v
    ICH Core.........1.100V...............: ------
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ......1.800V.............: 2.000v
    DRAM Termination ..0.900V.............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect.............: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: Disabled
    C2/C2E State Support..................: -------
    x C4/C4E State Support................: -------
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: Enabled
    CPU EIST Function.....................: Disabled
    Virtualization Technology.............: Disabled

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ............: Disabled

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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Try this as your ram just may not run at 1066 (not all will) So lets try lower ram speed for now >>>>

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio..................: 0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.0 (333 x 9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: Enabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: 100
    C.I.A.2 ..............................: Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 150

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: STANDARD
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).......: -----
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier .............: 2.66D (Try 2.66D for now )
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 885
    DRAM Timing Selectable ...............: Manual


    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time......................: AUTO 5
    tRCD .................................: AUTO 5
    tRP'..................................: AUTO 5
    tRAS..................................: AUTO 15
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..................................: 5
    tWTR..................................: 12
    tWR...................................: 14
    tRFC..................................: 68
    tRTP..................................: 6
    Command Rate (CMD) ...................: 2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength .....................: 1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value....................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value....................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type....... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore.............................: 1.450v << Use Auto for stock
    CPU Termination...... 1.200V*.........: 1.30v <<< Set 1.2 for stock
    CPU PLL...........1.500V*.............: 1.500v
    CPU Referen.........0.755V*...........: Auto
    CPU Reference2...,,0.800V*............: Auto

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core..........1.100V..............: 1.26v
    MCH Reference.....0.800V..............: Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref........0.900V............: Auto
    ICH I/O...........1.550V..............: 1.500v
    ICH Core.........1.100V...............: ------

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ......1.800V.............: 2.000v << Try just 1.9 for now, or 1.95
    DRAM Termination ..0.900V.............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect.............: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: Disabled
    C2/C2E State Support..................: -------
    x C4/C4E State Support................: -------
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: Enabled
    CPU EIST Function.....................: Disabled
    Virtualization Technology.............: Disabled

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ............: Disabled

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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Cheers, i'll give em a go.

    Thanks again.
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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Cheers, forgot to ask is there a document somewhere which has information in it about what each setting in the BIOS actually does? It'd be interesting to see what some of them mean (such as CPU/MCH Clock Skew, System memory multiplier, CPU PLL, Driving Strength etc) and what changing them actually does, though it'll probably go over my head!
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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Just the guides I have pinned. None for All the P45 settings thats for sure. You would just have to google what you do not find in the pinned guides

    I just posted some Skew and PLL links here >>>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/seve...tml#post268418

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ga-e...tml#post268415

    Memory Multiplier is in the guide I pinned for sure though. Check them out at the top of this section

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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Ok ive given the new settings posted a try. Still doesnt get into Windows, it restarts three times (however there is NO BEEPING now?) then gets most of the way through the Windows load screen like last time and freezes.

    Any ideas? Cheers.
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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    SUCCESS!!! I think...

    Running as 3.2ghz at the moment, i played around with the memory and it booted at 3.0, then i up'ed the CPU Host Frequency some more and got to 3.2. Ran Prime95 for 3 hours or so and all seemed ok. Its running again for longer now.

    One thing im not sure on is according to CPU-z the Core Voltage seems to fluctuate between around 1.328 and 1.375 when the comp is idle but whilst running Prime95 it remained stable at 1.328 is this normal? Also temps peaked at around 65c load running prime (around 37ish idle), are these figures ok?

    So now its booting ok whats the process for tightening up the ram timing, as i think theyre very loose at the moment.

    Thanks again for your help Lsd,

    Settings im on at the moment are as follows....

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: AUTO
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio..................: 0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.20 (356 x 9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: Enabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) .............: 356Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ..........: 100
    C.I.A.2 ..............................: Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)...................: 50
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 150

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: STANDARD
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).......: -----
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: 333
    System Memory Multiplier .............: 2.40B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 854
    DRAM Timing Selectable ...............: Manual


    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time......................: AUTO 5
    tRCD .................................: AUTO 5
    tRP'..................................: AUTO 5
    tRAS..................................: AUTO 15
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..................................: 5
    tWTR..................................: 12
    tWR...................................: 14
    tRFC..................................: 68
    tRTP..................................: 6
    Command Rate (CMD) ...................: 2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength .....................: 1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value....................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value....................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..............: Auto ps
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type....... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore.............................: 1.425v Actual shown in CPU-z is between 1.328v and 1.375v (1.328v load)
    CPU Termination...... 1.200V*.........: 1.200v
    CPU PLL...........1.500V*.............: 1.500v
    CPU Referen.........0.755V*...........: Auto
    CPU Reference2...,,0.800V*............: Auto

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core..........1.100V..............: 1.300v
    MCH Reference.....0.800V..............: Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref........0.900V............: Auto
    ICH I/O...........1.550V..............: 1.500v
    ICH Core.........1.100V...............: ------

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ......1.800V.............: 1.900v
    DRAM Termination ..0.900V.............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect.............: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: Disabled
    C2/C2E State Support..................: -------
    x C4/C4E State Support................: -------
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: Enabled
    CPU EIST Function.....................: Disabled
    Virtualization Technology.............: Disabled

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ............: Disabled
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    Default Re: New build memory connundrum, please help!

    Sounds like you are almost there then. Please post your exact settings you are using that almost make it and I will advise back

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