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    Default Ep45-ds3l

    hi..
    can you help me, im desperate..

    my computer freezes every time, i cant setup my bios, it freezes after 10-50 sec

    configuration:
    intel core2duo e8500
    kingmax ddr2 2gb 800mhz (2x) - put them in 1 & 3 slot
    powercolor hd4850
    chieftec 650w
    bios F6

    please help



    edit: if kingmax is not good, which memory i should buy ???
    Last edited by raver777; 11-05-2008 at 09:53 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds3l

    What you should always do on day one is test each stick before you get going to be sure you did not get sent a faulty stick.

    To do that please test each stick one at a time in slot one with Manually set ram voltage, performance enhance set to standard, memory multiplier = to default ram speed, manually set Main timings, everything else should be in Auto. Use this Memtest86+ it must be this version or newer for P43/45 boards (2.01) >>>>
    http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

    Please remove one stick of ram from slot 3.

    Then go into the BIOS and set these things so you can get 2 sticks working, then you can set the rest if you like (I can give you all settings if you want, these are just to get you going with 2 sticks)

    Do this with one stick in slot one >>>

    Set your ram voltage to spec (What you see on the sticker) normally this is 2.0-2.1, give me a link to your ram and I can check warrantied amounts for you.

    Set performance enhance to STANDARD

    Set trfc to at least 54 (52-62 optimal)

    Set Static tRead on both channels to 9-10 for now

    Set Mch voltage to 1.2-1.3 (maybe 1.24 first will do)

    Then save and apply F10, and reboot then shut down. Put in your second stick and you should be good to go.

    Then if you need full suggested settings let me know what CPU Speed you are running and I willa dvise
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 11-06-2008 at 02:52 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds3l

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Do this with one stick in slot one >>>

    Set your ram voltage to spec (What you see on the sticker) normally this is 2.0-2.1, give me a link to your ram and I can check warrantied amounts for you.

    Set performance enhance to STANDARD

    Set trfc to at least 54 (52-62 optimal)

    Set Static tRead on both channels to 9-10 for now

    Set Mch voltage to 1.2-1.3 (maybe 1.24 first will do)

    Then save and apply F10, and reboot then shut down. Put in your second stick and you should be good to go.

    Then if you need full suggested settings let me know what CPU Speed you are running and I willa dvise
    i put this values and its not working, it freezes again..
    memory:
    KINGMAX Technology Inc.
    meanwhile, i flash bios to F9
    what settings should i use for one memory stick ??
    even one stick its not working..
    can you sent me all settings for bios ?!

    thanks 4 help

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds3l

    Please give me your full settings so I can better help you >>>


    Hey, did you test this ram one stick at a time yet? You may have gotten a DOA set of sticks

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7-10
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds3l

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Please give me your full settings so I can better help you >>>


    Hey, did you test this ram one stick at a time yet? You may have gotten a DOA set of sticks

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.+0.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.166GHZ (333*9.5)
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800 <<< 
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800 <<< 
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0 <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0 <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
     Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled   // dont have this
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................[auto] 5
    tRCD .........................................[auto] 5
    tRP'...........................................[auto] 5
    tRAS..........................................[auto=18] i set to 15
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................[auto] 3
    tWTR..........................................[auto] 3
    tWR............................................[auto] 6
    tRFC...........................................[auto] 52
    tRTP...........................................[auto] 3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:[auto] 2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................auto
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:[auto] 7
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7 [auto]
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: [auto] 1.22500V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: [auto] 1.200V <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: [auto] 1.550V << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......:  [auto] 0.805V<<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: 0.80V [auto] <<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
     
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.05V << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; [auto] 0.760V <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: [auto] 1.550<<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [auto] (1.800V)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    i dont have this
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    i cant test ram because computer freezes

    ep45-ds3l
    intel core2duo e8500
    kingmax ddr2 800mhz
    powercolor hd4850
    chieftec 650w
    bios F9
    floppy drive
    2 dvd drives
    2 hard disks

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds3l

    Freezes? Then how did you give me those settings? One stick should not freeze on you. Can you test the ram in another system?

    Here, try these settings for both sticks >>>>

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.+0.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.166GHZ (333*9.5)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800 <<<
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800 <<<
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0 <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0 <<< 100-150


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto] or 333 with 2.40B below
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time....................... 5
    tRCD ........................................ 5
    tRP'..........................................5
    tRAS..........................................18

    Set to all highest for now below first then you can lower later testing with memtest86+ as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-5
    tWTR..........................................3-6 (Set 12)
    tWR............................................4-6 (Set 14)
    tRFC...........................................52-62 (Set 68)
    tRTP.......................................... 3-6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................800-1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:10-12
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:10-12
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: [auto] 1.22500V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: [auto] 1.200V <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: [auto] 1.550V << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: [auto] 0.805V<<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: 0.80V [auto] <<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.05V << 1.2-1.3 for 2x2GB of ram
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; [auto] <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: [auto] 1.550-1.6
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.1-1.2

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [auto] (1.800V) << Set 1.9V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    i dont have this

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds3l

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Freezes? Then how did you give me those settings? One stick should not freeze on you. Can you test the ram in another system?
    well, i put one stick..
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time....................... 5
    tRCD ........................................ 5
    tRP'..........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.05V
    everything else put on auto, and its working ok until i load game in windows, or, i tried testing memory and cpu in everest, when i start first test (memory read) it freezes..
    next, i put these values from yout post with 2 stick and again freezes..

    i put 1 stick in 1st slot, run memtest, and it freezes..
    should i buy new memory stick, what memory do you suggest ?.. 2gb stick dd2 1066mhz... i will buy that memory.. if that memory wont work, what MB should i buy ?

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds3l

    If you want to get new ram I would Suggest Mushkin brand if you can get it where you live. If not G.Skills are also good for Gigabyte boards.

    Did you test the ram in another PC or can you?

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