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    Default Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

    Quote Originally Posted by stasio View Post
    Anything wrong with Z170X-SOC FORCE F6k Beta BIOS?
    Yes there is something wrong bios F6k.

    Z170X SOC Force Bios F6k - does not overclock memory hardly at all.

    Bios F6i - Was a really great improvement as it allowed to push memory overclocking and timings further than ever before.

    Don't know what they have done in F6k, but it won't successfully train memory at really loose tiimings and requires that VCCIO,SA, DRAM and DRAM Training voltages, be set a lot higher than they have ever had to be, just to boot successfully. Will not train and boot successfully at anything CAS 16 or less. Whereas F6i went down to CAS 12.

    Can you let Gigabyte know, so they can fix whatever it is they have done to F6k, so it doesn't continue in newer bios versions.
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    ^
    You can found memory timing for SOCF here:
    Gigabyte Z170X-SOC Force - DDR4 - HWBOT forum

    or extreme OC here:
    Gigabyte Z170X-SOC Force Owner's Thread and Discussion - Page 23

    If you want to push you memory, be sure to set DRAM Initial Volts.
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    Default Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun Paul O'Hagan View Post
    I'm using an i5 6400 you're using a 6700k overclocking using just the multiplier? Maybe it the memory I'm using? Kingston fury black 2666Mhz.

    How are you using a non k bios with a K CPU? I thought we were warned against doing so?

    I'm using the K bios F7k. I have kingston fury black 2666mhz also. no issues. I would check to see if you bent any CPU pins on your motherboard.
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    Default Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

    Quote Originally Posted by stasio View Post
    ^
    You can found memory timing for SOCF here:
    Gigabyte Z170X-SOC Force - DDR4 - HWBOT forum

    or extreme OC here:
    Gigabyte Z170X-SOC Force Owner's Thread and Discussion - Page 23

    If you want to push you memory, be sure to set DRAM Initial Volts.
    Hey Stasio,

    I know how to get it to overclock, thats not the point i was trying to make
    My gskill ripjaws V 3600mhz runs at 17-18-18-38-2T, from factory.
    With bios F6i for example, to make it run at 1T i simply change the CR to 1 and thats it.
    I have Vccio and SA set to 1.3 and
    DRAM and DRAM Training voltages set to 1.35.

    Now with bios F6k, i need to increase Vccio and Sa to 1.35 and DRAM and DRAM Training voltages to 1.40 in order for it to boot successfully at 1T CR.
    It will not train and boot at the same voltages that F6i does. In fact all previous versions prior to F6i all worked fine at the same voltages as F6i, its only F6k that has changed for the worse.

    The point is that for some reason with bios F6k it requires the voltages to be set a lot higher than F6i for the memory to pass training and boot. Which then means that as i tighten the timings, which requires the voltages to be increased accordingly, due to bios F6k requiring higher voltages to be set than previous bios versions, at the same timings, then you cannot go as tight as previous bios versions because you get to the max voltage settings allowed.

    Another example - Bios F6i could boot successfully with 16-18-18-38, with DRAM and DRAM Training voltages set at 1.75 volts.

    Bios F6k will not boot successfully at the above settings and needs DRAM and DRAM Training voltages to be set to 1.9 Volts.

    So whatever Gigabyte has done or changed to bios F6k, it needs to be fixed so that it doesnt continue into future bios versions.
    All previous bios versions to F6k did not need such high voltages to pass training and boot.

    This is causing major issues as cannot run tight timings to do memory overclocking and get good scores in benchmarks.

    Im using bios F6i at the moment which is great, but obviously if they dont fix the memory voltage and training issue in bios F6k and have it work like F6i again, then if the problem were to remain in future versions, then updating to future versions to get improvements would be problematic if memory overclocking was flawed.

    Please let Gigabyte know to rectify this issue.

    Thanks Stasio

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    Changes from F6i => F6k (what I know) is new Intel microcode 74, according to Intel request.
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    Default Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

    Going from f4d to f4 on Z170N Gaming 5 does not allow me to boot with XMP enable at all. According to the changelogs, it's supposed to improve XMP DDR compability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nehway0912 View Post
    Going from f4d to f4 on Z170N Gaming 5 does not allow me to boot with XMP enable at all. According to the changelogs, it's supposed to improve XMP DDR compability.
    same mobo ..i got "Boot failure detected" every turn on the computer if xmp enable..even back to f4d!!

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    Hey, I just noticed has a new beta version (F8d) up on their BIOS download page. I've been having some issues with (presumably) memory compatibility between the GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 and Vengeance® Low Profile 8 GB 1600 sticks, and it's not listed as compatible according to gigabyte in the PDF, however I've read corsair has stated it is compatible. I was wondering if this update addresses the issue I'm having (ATTEMPTED_WRITE_TO_READONLY_MEMORY)?

    The modules are not corrupt.

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    Default Re: GIGABYTE Latest Beta BIOS

    Quote Originally Posted by stasio View Post

    Yes...with UBU is easy to replace microcode to 6A (non-k oc).
    I have a Z170XP-SLI and used UBU to replace 74 microcode with 6A (non-k oc) in the latest bios, but CPU Base Clock is still locked to 100 Mhz, there is something else i have to do?

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    ^
    Clear_CMOS or try microcode 3A or 34.
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