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    Default GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1 ~ First Build Challenges

    GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1, AMD Athlon x2 5600+ with Xigmatek HDT-S1283 heatsink, RAM = 8GB G.Skill 1000 (intending XP-64), Case = Antec P150 with Corsair HX520W PSU. HDD = 3, 2 x 500W SATA Seagates, 1 x 320W IDE. Optical: 2 (SATA + IDE). Floppy. Monitor LG W2242TQ-BF (22" LCD)


    Hi,
    I'm new to this forum. I posted yesterday at the NCIX forums, as that was where I bought the components for this first build of mine. But perhaps I can find some Gigabyte mobo experts if I move to here. I don't mean to post in 2 different places, though, so if you want to see what I wrote yesterday, it's under First Build Won't Start, over at NCIX. Thank you.

    In a nutshell, this first build is a light heavyweight for multitasking but not games. I've taken months to get everything together, and yesterday was my first attempt to start it up. It began very smoothly, and I found myself in the BIOS with my Gigabyte manual to help.

    I got as far as the beginning of an XP-64 install, just as far as it processes the first files. Then it warned me that something in my config looked wrong, and I should re-check my drives, and restart.

    With 6 drives--2 optical, a floppy, and 3 HDDs--I decided to disconnect various ones. But I never got my system back to that level again.

    Instead, I ran into a new problem in which the 22" LCD monitor would come on to show its logo, and then tell me it was going into energy-saving mode, and then it would commence to snooze. In other words, it was not--and still IS not--receiving anything from the mobo. It's connected by a Belkin DVI-D cable.

    At the same time, I lost the use of either of 2 keyboards I was using. One on the older socket plug-in, the other on USB. So they were on the back and the front of the case connections.

    And at the same time, my case power start button began to require a 4-minute press to power off. Of course I had no Ctrl-Alt-Del because I had no keyboard. But the power button had previously had an instant power off.

    I thought I'd perhaps made a BIOS mistake, but since then I have twice removed the CMOS battery for several minutes each time. No difference. I still am operating blind, with no monitor display and no keyboard.

    I've tested the system with no drives connected at all. No difference.

    I've removed 2 of the 4 RAM sticks. No difference. But I don't THINK that RM would influence whether a keyboard receives input from the mobo, would it?????

    I am wondering about my Power Button wiring connections. If you know a lot about Gigabyte mobos, perhaps you have insights here. The case is an Antec P150. I connected "all the little wires' by assuming any colour was positive, and any white was not positive. I have not seen anything that looks loose, but maybe there is. I might have jostled a small wire when I was disconnecting all those drives.

    Please keep in mind: at the moment, I have no monitor and no keyboard. Yesterday morning both were okay. The BIOS is theoretically at default, although I can't see it. I still have fans humming, and, when connected, the drives appear to be working.

    Thanks a lot.
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    Default Re: GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1 ~ First Build Challenges

    I must admit i don't know much about this board or setup at all.

    However, i'm assuming it's got onboard video?

    Have you connected up a motherboard speaker, so you can hear any bios beep codes etc? That could alert you to what the monitor isn't showing you.
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    Thanks, Vor. I didn't realize it had no case speaker until I was working with it yesterday. I have a good audio system, but I'll get a little case speaker as soon as I can. There are 4 pins on the motherboard for one.

    This mobo was given a very good review at Tom's Hardware, which actually influenced me to buy it. I am waiting to see how good the video is before I buy a video card:
    HD3400 In The Northbridge With Additional Memory - Tom's Hardware : AMD's New 780G Chipset Has Powerful GPU
    AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+
    Gigabyte AM2+ GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1. BIOS (newest) F11
    NB: AMD780G. SB: AMD SB700
    RAM 8GB (2 kits @ 4GB each) G.Skill DDR2-1000 (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 x2 CL5-5-5-15) running as DDR2-800
    Case Antec P150
    PSU Corsair HX520W. (PSU calc by Corsair + NCIX; tested by TT Dr Power.)
    Cooling Xigmatek HDT-S1283 heatsink (Arctic Silver 5); 6 fans
    HDDs usable 1.7 TB (4 Seagates—3x 500GB SATA ST3500320AS w/SD1A + 1x 320GB PATA ST3320620A)
    Floppy
    Opticals (3): Pioneer SATA DVR-212D; LiteOn/Sony PATA CRX230AE; external USB Samsung SE-S204S DVD Writer
    Video ATI Radeon HD4670
    Monitor 22" LG W2242TQ w/Belkin DVI-D
    Sound Altec Lansing 5.1
    Mouses (2) Logi MX620 + Logi V220
    KB Simple Perfection backlit USB
    XP64
    No gaming; heavy simultaneous use of big programs
    System built Nov 2008




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    Default Re: GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1 ~ First Build Challenges

    I would remove all but one stick of ram, and when you remove the CMOS battery put a jumper on the Clear CMOS pins and unplug the PSU and let the system sit for about 30 minutes.

    Then see if you can start the system, if not try each ram (Still one only) at a time, maybe one or more is faulty. It happens

    As for your Install, you have to load the correct drivers per your BIOS settings with F6 at the initial start of the XP install is why you are seeing that error

    And best to use a PS/2 keyboard until you get things sorted.

    If you still do not get anywhere take your board out of the case and try on a box or wooden table with only minimal parts (CPU/Heatsink, One stick of working ram {Test in another PC if you can} and the GFX card) NO hard drives or optical drives and see if you can get in the BIOS. If you can then you start slowly adding things back one at a time until you find what is causing the failure
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    Default Re: GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1 ~ First Build Challenges

    Lsdmeasap, that is an interesting idea :
    put a jumper on the Clear CMOS pins and unplug the PSU and let the system sit for about 30 minutes.
    I am trying that right now. Previously I had removed the battery, but I had not put a jumper over the CMOS pins.

    Er—the big PSU attachment is really, really firmly snapped into place. I'm having trouble removing it without doing damage. But that is essential, I suppose? The power to the system is of course unplugged.

    Gee, it would be nice if this was the solution. Thank you.
    AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+
    Gigabyte AM2+ GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1. BIOS (newest) F11
    NB: AMD780G. SB: AMD SB700
    RAM 8GB (2 kits @ 4GB each) G.Skill DDR2-1000 (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 x2 CL5-5-5-15) running as DDR2-800
    Case Antec P150
    PSU Corsair HX520W. (PSU calc by Corsair + NCIX; tested by TT Dr Power.)
    Cooling Xigmatek HDT-S1283 heatsink (Arctic Silver 5); 6 fans
    HDDs usable 1.7 TB (4 Seagates—3x 500GB SATA ST3500320AS w/SD1A + 1x 320GB PATA ST3320620A)
    Floppy
    Opticals (3): Pioneer SATA DVR-212D; LiteOn/Sony PATA CRX230AE; external USB Samsung SE-S204S DVD Writer
    Video ATI Radeon HD4670
    Monitor 22" LG W2242TQ w/Belkin DVI-D
    Sound Altec Lansing 5.1
    Mouses (2) Logi MX620 + Logi V220
    KB Simple Perfection backlit USB
    XP64
    No gaming; heavy simultaneous use of big programs
    System built Nov 2008




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    Default Re: GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1 ~ First Build Challenges

    Er—the big PSU attachment is really, really firmly snapped into place. I'm having trouble removing it without doing damage. But that is essential, I suppose? The power to the system is of course unplugged.
    I found mine to be nicely tight too (atx 24pin). There is no need to remove it, if you are happy to carry out the rest of the process (explained above) after you've left the PSU unplugged from the mains supply for a period of hours, or even overnight. This will give time for the decoupling electrolytic capacitors to fully discharge. In all reality the power supply secondary side capacitors (low voltage side) will discharge fairly quickly anyway.
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    This is scary stuff—I so much want it to work! It makes perfect sense that the BIOS settings would be the culprit, and I had only dismissed the possibility because I didn't know the jumper technique was required. I think I'll leave it with the jumper on overnight.

    You've also given me other good advice about Windows—I didn't know about F6. I am intending to put on XP 64 (so the RAM can be properly used) and I have lots of utilities and drivers on DVD for after the fact. I'm good with software and making systems work very nicely, but I don't know the BIOS (and I don't really know networking, either).

    If I can only get to the BIOS again—and SEE it with my monitor—then I intend to do the very least tweaking I can, just enough to get XP on. Then I'll go back and fix up the BIOS.

    —If it works, the first thing the BIOS will tell me is SATA is found running at IDE mode! Wikipedia says that can be tricky to change AFTER the OS is installed. Would you press [Y] and enable AHCI on that first time into the BIOS?

    Thanks again.
    AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+
    Gigabyte AM2+ GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1. BIOS (newest) F11
    NB: AMD780G. SB: AMD SB700
    RAM 8GB (2 kits @ 4GB each) G.Skill DDR2-1000 (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 x2 CL5-5-5-15) running as DDR2-800
    Case Antec P150
    PSU Corsair HX520W. (PSU calc by Corsair + NCIX; tested by TT Dr Power.)
    Cooling Xigmatek HDT-S1283 heatsink (Arctic Silver 5); 6 fans
    HDDs usable 1.7 TB (4 Seagates—3x 500GB SATA ST3500320AS w/SD1A + 1x 320GB PATA ST3320620A)
    Floppy
    Opticals (3): Pioneer SATA DVR-212D; LiteOn/Sony PATA CRX230AE; external USB Samsung SE-S204S DVD Writer
    Video ATI Radeon HD4670
    Monitor 22" LG W2242TQ w/Belkin DVI-D
    Sound Altec Lansing 5.1
    Mouses (2) Logi MX620 + Logi V220
    KB Simple Perfection backlit USB
    XP64
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    Default Re: GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1 ~ First Build Challenges

    Ya, you can leave the cables connected. To be sure most of the power is drained you may also press and hold the case power on button for a minute or so.

    Yes, you would need to enable AHCI in the BIOS and then install windows with the AHCI Driver. Not tricky at all really

    Let us know if you get going, and do need more help.... Or if you do not get going

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    Or if you do not get going
    Well, I did leave the battery out all night, and I left the jumper connecting the CMOS to clear it all night. But this morning—exactly the same problem persists.

    Running with only my SATA DVD and one SATA HD connected, all RAM:
    YES
    — PSU fan
    — PSU connection to front door fans
    — PSU drives
    — PSU main power off-on button on rear
    YES
    — mobo power on-off button on front (OK function + OK LED)
    — mobo CPU fan
    — mobo 2 LEDs on an extension card
    NO
    — mobo rear case fan
    — mobo USBs
    — mobo keyboards
    — mobo power restart button on front
    YES AND NO
    — Monitor receives power, starts and shows logo, then displays "Digital Power-saving Mode" and goes down into a standby mode; green LED goes to yellow. (This is exactly the same as the monitor would do if switched on independently of the computer.)

    Yesterday morning, AT FIRST, I had both plug-in and USB keyboardsworking, monitor display, all RAM recognized and counted correctly (CMOS base memory 640K, extended memory 7934M), all drives recognized, rear case fan OK, BIOS available, and even got so far as beginning Windows install. After Windows install warned me to turn the system off and check everything, i noticed floppy light was on steady, and I detached various drives until I was trying the system with no drives at all. I also checked the RAM and tried single RAM sticks. The results were identical to the way things remain now.

    I am still stubbornly resisting the possibility of a mobo problem. This is my first build, and the main suspect here would seem to be ME. I did modify the BIOS. When things went bad yesterday, I thought I had most likely screwed up a BIOS setting. I am still wondering about BIOS and about wiring, although I did check all the case and mobo wire connections yesterday.

    I realize both the PSU and the mobo are suspect. But am I overlooking something here?
    AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+
    Gigabyte AM2+ GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1. BIOS (newest) F11
    NB: AMD780G. SB: AMD SB700
    RAM 8GB (2 kits @ 4GB each) G.Skill DDR2-1000 (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 x2 CL5-5-5-15) running as DDR2-800
    Case Antec P150
    PSU Corsair HX520W. (PSU calc by Corsair + NCIX; tested by TT Dr Power.)
    Cooling Xigmatek HDT-S1283 heatsink (Arctic Silver 5); 6 fans
    HDDs usable 1.7 TB (4 Seagates—3x 500GB SATA ST3500320AS w/SD1A + 1x 320GB PATA ST3320620A)
    Floppy
    Opticals (3): Pioneer SATA DVR-212D; LiteOn/Sony PATA CRX230AE; external USB Samsung SE-S204S DVD Writer
    Video ATI Radeon HD4670
    Monitor 22" LG W2242TQ w/Belkin DVI-D
    Sound Altec Lansing 5.1
    Mouses (2) Logi MX620 + Logi V220
    KB Simple Perfection backlit USB
    XP64
    No gaming; heavy simultaneous use of big programs
    System built Nov 2008




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    Default Re: GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1 ~ First Build Challenges

    I realized this evening that my computer is not booting up as far as doing a POST. It fails before the POST.

    But it WAS posting on Monday morning. There was no excessive heat around the CPU. Later, when I took the heat sink off the CPU, the Arctic Silver looked okay.
    AMD Athlon 64 x2 5600+
    Gigabyte AM2+ GA-MA78GM-S2H ver 1.1. BIOS (newest) F11
    NB: AMD780G. SB: AMD SB700
    RAM 8GB (2 kits @ 4GB each) G.Skill DDR2-1000 (F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ PC2-8000 x2 CL5-5-5-15) running as DDR2-800
    Case Antec P150
    PSU Corsair HX520W. (PSU calc by Corsair + NCIX; tested by TT Dr Power.)
    Cooling Xigmatek HDT-S1283 heatsink (Arctic Silver 5); 6 fans
    HDDs usable 1.7 TB (4 Seagates—3x 500GB SATA ST3500320AS w/SD1A + 1x 320GB PATA ST3320620A)
    Floppy
    Opticals (3): Pioneer SATA DVR-212D; LiteOn/Sony PATA CRX230AE; external USB Samsung SE-S204S DVD Writer
    Video ATI Radeon HD4670
    Monitor 22" LG W2242TQ w/Belkin DVI-D
    Sound Altec Lansing 5.1
    Mouses (2) Logi MX620 + Logi V220
    KB Simple Perfection backlit USB
    XP64
    No gaming; heavy simultaneous use of big programs
    System built Nov 2008




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