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    Default Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    My new system setup is as follows:
    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-DSR3 (BIOS F10)
    INTEL Core 2 Duo E8500
    CORSAIR TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX (4GB)
    COOLER MASTER GeminII S
    HIS Radeon HD 4850 IceQ4 Turbo
    ENERMAX PRO82+ 525W
    WD Caviar SE16 640GB
    LG GGC-H20L
    Windows XP Professional with SP2

    MoutainMods Ascension Case
    2 x Scythe SY1225SL12M 120mm Slipstream
    2 x Antec 761345-75080-6 80mm 3-Speed

    The ONLY changes I have made to the BIOS so far are as follows:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]

    PC Health Status
    CPU Smart Fan Control.................: [Enabled]

    The Problem:
    My new system crashes after playing just about any (recent-ish 2006-2008) game for more than an hour. It does NOT crash after running Prime95 for 24 hours, though.

    According to Core Temp, the CPU never really gets above 50 degrees. The GPU doesn't get too hot either (HIS IceQ4). The HDD is okay too.

    But once I was playing and Half Life 2, and it started jerking / jolting / massively stuttering, so I quickly exited the game.

    EasyTune6 was open at the time, and the CPU temp was only 40 degrees, BUT the SYSTEM temp was 45 degrees.

    Could a SYSTEM tempurature of 45 degrees be crashing my system? Any suggestions would be endlessly helpful. Thanks in advance.

    Kind Regards,
    Eric
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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    Well with 4GB you need to set your ram voltage (Normally 2.0-2.1) and set MCH voltage to 1.2-1.3 (1.24-1.28 normally good)

    You may or may not need or want to set other settings. Let me know if that helps you any, if not I will give you a full list of settings to use

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    Lsdmeasap,

    Thank you for responding so quickly. Yes, I would love to have some ideas for the other settings. Thank you.

    I think it worked! I set the DRAM voltage to 2.1v, based on Corsair's specs. I also the MCH Core to 1.280v.

    Why would the system crash (or appear to overheat) when the voltages are too low? Thanks, again.

    Kind Regards,
    Eric

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    Yes, the system would crash at to low of voltages, but not appear to overheat. What are you using to look at temps and what temp is it that has you worried?

    If you would like full setting please do link me to your ram and fill this in with what you are using and I will advise back >>>


    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    I had EasyTune6 open once when the system was acting funny, and the motherboard tempurature was around 45 degrees, and I thought maybe I had a bad mobo. But I guess not, though.

    Here's the link to the ram:
    http://www.corsair.com/_datasheets/T...-6400C4DHX.pdf

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ................: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ........................: 9 X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio....................: +0.5
    CPU Frequency ..........................: 3.16 GHz
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ............: Auto
    C.I.A.2 ................................: Disabled
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.........................: 800 mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900 mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps).....................: 0 ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps).....................: 0 ps
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance.....................: Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).........: Auto
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch..................: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ...............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) .................: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable .................: Auto
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time............................: 4  (Auto)
    tRCD .......................................: 4  (Auto)
    tRP'........................................: 4  (Auto)
    tRAS........................................: 12  (Auto)
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................: 3  (Auto)
    tWTR........................................: 3  (Auto)
    tWR.........................................: 8  (Auto)
    tRFC........................................: 52  (Auto)
    tRTP........................................: 3  (Auto)
    Command Rate (CMD) .........................: 0  (Auto)
    
    Channel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]
     Static tRead Value.........................: 6  (Auto)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)......................: 5  (Auto)
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)......................: 8  (Auto)
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto
    
    Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Driving Strength Profile....................: Auto
    
    Channel B Timing Settings [Press Enter]
     Static tRead Value.........................: 7  (Auto)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.......................: 1  (Auto)
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ......................: 1  (Auto)
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.......................: 1  (Auto)
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)......................: 5  (Auto)
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)......................: 8  (Auto)
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto
    
    Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Driving Strength Profile....................: Auto
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore...............1.25000V.........: Auto
    CPU Termination.........1.200V...........: Auto
    CPU PLL.................1.500V...........: Auto
    CPU Reference...........0.760V...........: Auto
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core................1.100V...........: 1.280V
    MCH Reference...........0.760V...........: Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref............0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O.................1.500V...........: Auto
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage............1.800V...........: 2.100V 
    DRAM Termination .......0.900V...........: Auto
    Channel A Reference.....0.900V...........: Auto
    Channel B Reference.....0.900V...........: Auto
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3....................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect................: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..................: Enabled
    C2/C2E State Support.....................: Disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support...................: Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..............: Enabled
    CPU EIST Function........................: Enabled
    Virtualization Technology................: Enabled
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ...............: Enabled
    Thank you for all your help.

    Kind Regards,
    Eric

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    Ya, that is a normal temp for your motherboard.

    Here is optimal ranges for your settings from what you gave above >>>

    From your BIOS settings you give, looks like you need to load optimized defaults, you did not do this after you updated your BIOS did you? If not, which looks like, please do so. Load optimized, set your ram voltage only then save/apply/reboot BACK to the BIOS. You MUST do that so you can set your SATA/Disk settings again before you try to load windows, and of course any and all other settings you wish to change.

    That is a critical part of updating your BIOS, and should be done each and every time you flash your BIOS. If you did that, or all those driving strengths/channel timings and such are indeed on their own pages as shown below you can ignore my thoughts/comments about all that! >>



    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ................: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ........................: 9 X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio....................: +0.5
    CPU Frequency ..........................: 3.16 GHz
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ...............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ............: 100
    C.I.A.2 ................................: Disabled
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.........................: 800 mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900 mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps).....................: 0 ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps).....................: 0 ps 50-150 can help with stability
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance.....................: Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).........: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch..................: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ...............: 2.40B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) .................: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable .................: Manual
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time............................: 4  
    tRCD .......................................: 4  
    tRP'........................................: 4  
    tRAS........................................: 12  
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................: 3-4
    tWTR........................................: 3-6
    tWR.........................................: 4-6
    tRFC........................................:52-62
    tRTP........................................: 3-5
    Command Rate (CMD) .........................:2
    
    A & B All settings should match
    
    Channel A Timing Settings [Press Enter]
     Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)......................: 5  (Auto)
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)......................: 8  (Auto)
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto
    
    Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Driving Strength Profile....................: 800-1066 (Benchmark/Test Both)
    
    Channel B Timing Settings [Press Enter]
     Static tRead Value.........................: 6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment.......................: 1  (Auto)
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.......................: 0  (Auto)
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ......................: 1  (Auto)
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment.......................: 1  (Auto)
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)......................: 6  (Auto)
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)......................: 5  (Auto)
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)......................: 8  (Auto)
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control....................: Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto
    
    Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Driving Strength Profile....................: 800/1066 (Benchmark/test both)
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore...............1.25000V.........: Auto << If you overclock at ALL Manually set this 
    
    CPU Termination.........1.200V...........: Auto << If you overclock at ALL Manually set this (1.2-1.38)
    
    CPU PLL.................1.500V...........: Auto << If you overclock at ALL Manually set this to stock
    
    CPU Reference...........0.760V...........: Auto
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core................1.100V...........: 1.280V (1.24-1.28)
    MCH Reference...........0.760V...........: Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref............0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O.................1.500V...........: Auto
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage............1.800V...........: 2.0-2.100V 
    DRAM Termination .......0.900V...........: Auto
    Channel A Reference.....0.900V...........: Auto
    Channel B Reference.....0.900V...........: Auto
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3....................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect................: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)..................: Enabled << Disabled if you want to overclock
    C2/C2E State Support.....................: Disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support...................: Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ..............: Enabled
    CPU EIST Function........................: Enabled << Disabled if you want to overclock
    Virtualization Technology................: Enabled
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ...............: Enabled

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    Thank you for all your help, Lsdmeasap. Everything seems to be running smoothly except when I set the Static tRead Value manually. What do you mean by the following? Thank you, again.

    <code>Static tRead Value...: 6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH</code>

    Kind Regards,
    Eric

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    Default Re: Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R Overheating?

    static read is the range you can try ... between 7 to 10 .. at the (G)MCH Frequency Latch 333.. and the 2.00B , 2.40B or 3.20B .. some thing like that

    and the 400 is end with D

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