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    Default EP35-DS3L Memory issue or something else?

    Hello,

    Looking for some help with random BSOD's.

    Specs:
    Q6600 @ 2.4, stock cooling
    EP35-DS3L
    Crucial Ballistix Tracer 4x1gb
    Sapphire Radeon HD2600XT
    Seagate HD
    Windows XP updated to SP3

    With some help from this forum I have set memory to the values below. Memtest ran for 100 passes ~30hrs. with no errors. However, Windows is still giving BSOD. It seems to happen only when running Prime95. Temps with two instances are of Prime are at around 60C. Does this still seem like memory issues or something else.

    Robust Graphics Booster Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio x9
    CPU Host Clock Control Disabled [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz) 266
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) Auto
    C.I.A. 2 disabled
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) Auto
    DRAM Timing Selectable Manual

    Performance Enhance = [Standard]

    CAS Latency Time______4
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay____4
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay___4
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)____12

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)___4
    Rank Write to READ Delay___6
    Write to Precharge Delay_____8
    Refresh to ACT Delay______62
    Read to Precharge Delay_____6
    Static tRead Value______8
    Static tRead Phase Adjust___Auto Always

    System Voltage Control__Manual
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ +0.3
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ Normal
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ +0.1
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control +0.2 <<< Needed for 4GB to be stable
    CPU Voltage Control_______ Normal

    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [N/A]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [N/A]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]

    Please help!!!

    Thanks,
    Ray

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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L Memory issue or something else?

    BSOD happens even if nothing is running. Can anyone help?

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    Have you checked the windows "performance logs and alerts"? Have you reinstalled windows? Are you using a known good copy of windows? Can you run chkdsk, error checking, etc on your hard drive?

    Try bumping up CPU Vcore a few notches in the bios.
    Last edited by thebiggiantkevin; 12-28-2008 at 11:02 PM.
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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L Memory issue or something else?

    Yes I have checked the logs from event viewer (I assume this is what you are referring to). Different error every time. These are the last three errors:
    Error code 1000007f
    Error code 1000000a
    Error code 1000008e

    When running Prime95 I also get an ntfs error, but I supposed that is because Prime is writing it's log to the disk and when the system crashes it raises the ntfs error.

    I am running a fresh copy of windows and yes, it is known to be good. I have run chkdsk and nothing. I'll see if I can download a diagnostic app from Seagate. I am doubting the HD is the culprit, but I will check anyway.

    I'll give the CPU Vcore a shot.

    Thanks for the reply. Any more suggestions . . . anyone, anyone??

    Ray

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    I'm assuming you didnt get any errors with Prime95? You may also want to test the CPU with StressPrime2004.
    Stress Prime 2004

    Do the voltages (12v, 5v, etc.) in the bios look alright? Any weird fluctuations?

    If the CPU, RAM, PSU and hard drive all test good then I think we can start to look at software. Often BSODs are caused by a buggy driver. Have you installed any sound cards, NIC cards, etc? You may want to download the latest driver for your video card.

    Theres some info about BSODs here...
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    Last edited by thebiggiantkevin; 12-29-2008 at 02:21 AM.
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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L Memory issue or something else?

    Okay, so I ran the diagnostic program from seagate on the hard drive and it passed. Pretty certain I can rule out the HD.

    I had not been getting errors with Prime95 running the small fft test, however I tried running the blend test this evening and got an error within minutes. Same thing on a second try with blend.

    Ran HWMonitor and voltage results are as follow:
    CPU Vcore -> 1.23V
    DDR -> 2.1V
    +3.3 -> 3.36V
    +5 -> 4.87V
    +12 -> 12.16V

    BIOS Values are:
    CPU Vcore -> 1.236V
    DDR -> 2.096V
    +3.3 -> 3.36V
    +5 -> 4.87V
    +12 -> 11.921V

    I haven't changed the CPU Vcore as I am not certain on where and what values to change. As there seems to be a lot of talk of people with issues using the ram I have (Crucial) and Gigabyte boards, I am still leaning towards that being the cause, especially since the changes I have made already have improved the system stability somewhat. Others, it seems, have been able to fix the settings and get it working, so I'm hoping I can join that group.

    Thanks again for the help, keep it coming.

    Ray

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    Cool, it sounds like you're on the right track. I think you just need to tweak 1 or 2 settings and it should be ok.

    Maybe try loosening the ram timings to 5-5-5-15.

    I didnt check the specs on your ram, but it may be possible to bump it up to 2.2v

    Wouldn't hurt to set PCI Express Frequency to Manual 100MHz

    You *should* be able to increase the CPU voltage to about 1.36v, but I don't mess with CPU voltages very much so I'm not 100% sure. Maybe bump it up a few notches in the bios and see if that helps.

    I'm not experienced enough to provide very detailed recommendations at his point. Hopefully one of the experts can jump in and help you out.
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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L Memory issue or something else?

    Yeah, the resident expert, Lsdmeasap, was out of town last week. He is supposed to be back helping us poor souls today, so I'm hoping he chimes in and gives his thoughts on my issue. In the mean time, I will give the timings a go and manually set the pcie freq. I believe I am maxed out on the ram voltage. From reading other threads here, my ram can take 2.2V but it would not be good for the ram's life span.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteRay View Post
    However, Windows is still giving BSOD. It seems to happen only when running Prime95.
    BSODs do occur from unstable overclocks.
    Nothing is impossible... Just mathematically improbable..

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    Default Re: EP35-DS3L Memory issue or something else?

    Quote Originally Posted by soldier View Post
    BSODs do occur from unstable overclocks.
    I am not overclocking. Just trying to get the system stable at stock first and then maybe take a stab at overclocking.

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