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    Default Windows XP hangs during setup

    Hi,

    Before I start showing all the details, I wonder if I am making an obvious mistake. This is the second system I have built. The first, several years ago, went without a hitch. This system is a GA-EP45-UD3P MB with an E8600 CPU.

    I have installed only the minimum things to get the OS installed - Power Supply, MB, CPU, Cooler, memory, IDE CD, and SATA HD. XP Setup has hung on me in several places (just getting started, installing devices, registering components, and so on). I have disabled everything in the BIOS that I appear to be able to in order to get by those hangs. I now get to 6-9 minutes remaining, saving settings, where it hangs. Every time it hangs, it will reboot into Windows and continue (it says restart) the setup.

    Am I doing something silly?

    Related question...Do I have to have sound setup in some way to hear the beeps? I am not hearing any...not even the comforting all is ok one.

    Thanks for any help you can provide. If the info I have provided is insufficient, I will follow with all the details.

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    You need a case speaker connected to the board to hear beeps.

    What type of Hard drives do you have, and what ports are they connected to (Color and #)?

    And what do you have set for these settings in Integrated Peripherals? >>>

    Integrated Peripherals

    SATA RAID/AHCI Mode (Intel ICH10R Southbridge) .............
    SATA Port0-3 Native Mode ................................... Enabled (or Disabled, both will work)

    Onboard SATA/IDE Device (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) .............
    Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode (GIGABYTE SATA2 Chip) ...........

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    Thanks for the quick response.

    I have a pair of WDC WD740GD-00FLA1 drives plugged into the yellow SATA2_0 and SATA2_1 ports. POST and CMOS config show them as channel 0 master and channel 1 master.

    SATA RAID/AHCI Mode ......... Disabled
    SATA Port0-3 Native Mode ... Disabled

    Onboard SATA/IDE Device ....... Enabled
    Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode ... IDE

    During setup I formatted both drives and tried to install Windows on each one. A partial install was apparently successful on each drive (Windows asks me which to boot, C: or D:, at startup). I am not planning to use RAID.

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    So are you installing from a IDE CD Drive then? If so, are you sure it's jumper or position on the cable is correct? Have you tried with ONLY that CD drive on the cable to install?

    You can enable this >>
    SATA Port0-3 Native Mode ... Disabled

    Did you remove the jumper off the back of your SATA drives?

    Is your XP install disk SP1 or greater? If not, it MUST Be

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    The IDE CD is the only IDE device on the cable. In fact it is the only IDE device in the system.

    I am replacing an ASUS MB in this system with the GIGABYTE MB. The CD and SATA drives were set up and working before the change.

    Additionally, XP setup is reading the CD and writing the hard drives (at least initially) fine.

    The drives have the jumpers installed. This is the "appropriate" and "default" configuration for a desktop PC according to the drive installation instructions.

    I am installing XP with an SP2 disk.

    I will try enable on the SATA Port0-3 Native Mode.

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    Once again, thanks for the quick response!

    Windows XP setup reads extensively from the CD, formats the hard drives, copies a lot of data from the CD to the hard drives, and then does configuration work. During all that it reboots to the installed OS on the hard drives. All that is successful. It is very late in the install when things hang. So it doesn't seem to me the CD or hard drives are the problem.

    Following that logic, I noted that most of the issues posted on these boards are memory related. So I looked into memory as the problem. The memory I am using was purchased in 2003 or so:
    2 x Corsair CM2x512-5400C4 XMS2-5400 512MB 675Mhz XMS5402v1.1 DDR2 4-4-4-12.
    It appears to be supported by the board although the specific part number is not in the Gigabyte supported list (Corsair is however).

    Just to test my theory, I grabbed some memory from a newer and faster machine:
    2 x Corsair CM2x1024-8500CSD XMD2-8500 1024MB 1066MHz XMS8805v1.2 DDR2 5-5-5-15.
    I reset the BIOS to optimized defaults. Windows installed fine.

    I reinstalled the old memory and Windows boots fine.

    The timing is set to 4-4-4-12 (I think) by the optimized defaults.

    What do you recommend I use for settings for the slower memory to be stable? I read the stickied post about memory timings and am somewhat overwhelmed. Any suggestions/clarifications you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    Ahh, nice find! Funny that it gave you issues with the install but works fine afterwards!

    Either way, nice to see you got it working for you now. So you plan to keep using it then or are you going to buy some more/newer ram for this system?

    Here is what I would use for that ram, this is just 2 x 512MB of ram right?

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:10
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.33


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B (or you can likely run 800Mhz, with 2.40B here just fine, you may need to set ram voltage to 1.95 or so. All depends on the quality of this ram)

    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 667Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................4
    tRCD .........................................4
    tRP'...........................................4
    tRAS..........................................12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3-4
    tWR............................................3-5
    tRFC...........................................28-36
    tRTP...........................................2-3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................667-800 (Test/Bench Both last to see which gives best test results and stability)

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:5-8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:5-8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: Auto ONLY If at Stock CPU/FSB Speeds

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Auto ONLY If at Stock CPU/FSB Speeds
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Auto ONLY If at Stock CPU/FSB Speeds

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << Auto
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.6
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.1x-1.2

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9-1.94 (1.9 may be actually less than, so just check it by setting 1.9 and then save/reboot back to the BIOS and see what it shows in PC Health section and adjust accordingly)

    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    I do plan to use the slower memory at least initially. I may upgrade to faster memory at some point.

    I do have 2x512.

    I tried to configure the BIOS using your recommendations. My config didn't have a few things and/or had them named differently. Here is what I set:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:10
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0 (not adjustable)
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.33 (not adjustable)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0ps

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled (not present)
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B

    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 667Mhz (not adjustable)
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................4
    tRCD .........................................4
    tRP'...........................................4
    tRAS..........................................12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................4
    tWR............................................5
    tRFC...........................................36
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................667

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 (I set this to 8 and it returned to auto)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 (I set this to 8 and it returned to auto)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual (not present)
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.....................: Disabled (you didn't show this)
    CPU Vcore….……….......1.25V..........: Auto
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500V
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.760V

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: (not present)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: Auto
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: Auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Auto

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.92
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] (not adjustable)
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    USB Storage Function ..............[Disabled] (different name)

    With those settings I reinstalled Windows successfully. Now to install drivers and try out some apps!

    Thanks for the help!

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    Default Re: Windows XP hangs during setup

    Great to hear you got windows installed and going!

    Did you load optimized defaults first? If not, please do so now and then set your ram voltage ONLY and save/apply/reboot BACK to the BIOS. You MUST go back to the BIOS first as you will need to set all settings again, including and don't forget your SATA/Disk settings and Hard Drive Boot Priority. I say this becuase you noted fine clock adjustment non adjustable so I thought you may have not loaded optimized yet, which you need to do with any CPU change or BIOS flash, or System Build

    But, it wont be adjustable unless you use a lesser then 10 Multi anyway, just wanted to let you know you can adjust it and should be able to once you have loaded optimized for your CPU. For example you can use 6.5, 7.5, 8.5, 9.5

    XMP is memory specific, if you do not see it, or it is grayed out that only means your RAM is not programmed is all

    All looks good, except some of your notes. About Static tRead Value, are you seeing a red warning box after you go back into the BIOS? Just wondering if your settings are being applied or not. If you see a red box, then you have some settings wrong. They will show still but they will not be used. I just ask because you should be able to set your own Static tRead Value

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:10
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0 (not adjustable) See above note
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.33 (not adjustable) This only adjusts when you change your FSB (CPU Host freq)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0ps

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled (not present) See above note
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B

    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 667Mhz (not adjustable) This adjusts by changing the above setting

    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................4
    tRCD .........................................4
    tRP'...........................................4
    tRAS..........................................12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................4
    tWR............................................5
    tRFC...........................................36
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................667

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 (I set this to 8 and it returned to auto) See below

    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 (I set this to 8 and it returned to auto) Likely due to you setting some of those ref voltages and them being incorrect thus not allowing the BIOS settings you used to be used. You should be able to use 6-7 for sure, 8 defintaley unless you have some $2 ram which I doubt

    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual (not present)
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.....................: Disabled (you didn't show this) Not all boards have it, leave disabled for 45Nm cpu

    CPU Vcore….……….......1.25V..........: Auto
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200V << At stock you can leave Auto
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500V << At stock you can leave Auto
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: 0.760V << all ref. voltages should be on Auto unless you specifically plan to set them and know how. Setting what you see for stock may be bad actually if you are not settings things accordingly with adjusting Ref voltages. So please put all ref's to Auto for now

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: (not present) Only some boards allow you to set this.

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: Auto
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: Auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Auto

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.92
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled] (not adjustable) << Only adjustable if you have C1E enabled, then they both will be adjustable.

    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    USB Storage Function ..............[Disabled] (different name)

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