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    Default Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    I've recently built a new system using the following:

    E8200 2.66Ghz
    GA-EP45-DS3L
    Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-8500C5 1066MHz
    Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler

    I have pretty much no experience with overclocking, but advised by a friend have managed to clock to 3.5ghz which seems to be stable. 3.2 and 3.4Ghz both ran Prime 95 fine for about 6 hours, and I've tested 3.5Ghz for about 3hrs. Max core temps were 57c in Real Temp (62c in HWMonitor). I then decided to try and push things further, but the system either fails to POST or boot Windows at 3.6Ghz. Heres my current BIOS settings:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.50

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 438Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Extreme]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00 D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 876Mhz

    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.30V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: Normal
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Normal
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Normal
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Normal

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.2V
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; Normal
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Normal
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: Normal
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Normal

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Normal
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Normal
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Normal

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]

    I believe with the temps I'm currently getting I could push the chip a bit further, but I don't really know how to proceed from here or how suitable the settings I'm using now are, so any help would be much appreciated.

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    Default Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    Spoke to soon about running at 3.5Ghz, just had a BSOD so I've dropped back down to 3.4Ghz for now.

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    Default Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    Put Performance Enhance back to standard and put memory multiplyer on 2.4B and try then.

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    Default Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    I can advise you of this for now, please set these manually or you are going to KILL your CPU Auto WAY Overvolts them when overclocked>>>

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2-1.35 (1.2-1.28 should be good for your clocks
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.35-1.5 (Try 1.4-1.5)

    Performance Enhance...................: [Extreme] << Use standard

    Got a link to your ram, I assume it is the 2.2V version but just want to be sure. What does the sticker say? You may need to use at least 2.1 if they are the 2.2V version

    Please fill out your FULL Settings as I need to see them all to best advise you >>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: 
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.40


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 426Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1022
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................4
    tWTR..........................................4
    tWR............................................8
    tRFC...........................................68
    tRTP...........................................4
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.3V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.24V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.5V

    CPU Referen.…………....0.805*.......:Normal

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.2V
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Normal
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Normal
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: Normal
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Normal

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.0V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............:
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]


    The ram is the 2.0V version, I made sure to check that as the shop I got it from advertised that version as being 2.2V for a short while and caused a few people problems.

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    Default Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    I would try using the D strap myself. Or try adding more MCH Voltage to stay on the B strap

    It would be much easier for you to use 2.00D until you are done pushing your FSB up there and get it stable then work on your ram. You may need to use tRD 9 for the D Strap

    And you may need more vcore then 1.3, what does that give you for actual in CPU-z at idle and load?

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    Default Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    CPU-z gives vcore as 1.232 idle and 1.216 max load. I'll switch back to 2.00D for now, and I'm guessing I should just up the vcore by .01 and try a higher FSB?

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    Default Re: Looking for E8200 + GA-EP45-DS3L overclocking advice

    Well you should get where you are stable before you raise the FSB. That is a large vdrop/vdroop, just keep that in mind when you are finding and setting stable Vcore

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