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    Default Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    greetings, just built my first pc and it went better than i thought with the only real hitches was how damn hard it was to screw in those bloody fans. thanks goes out to Lsdmeasap for the help.

    what i want to do is up my performance and stay stable. this is not a gaming machine but it is an audio DAW. what i'll be running is Cubase sx3, Protools 7.4, Samplitude 10, Wavelab, and a good number of of VST and VSTi (UAD, Waves, PSP, Spectrosonics, N.I., etc).

    here are my specs and info

    mobo: GA-EP45-DS3L Rev 1.o Bios:F10
    cpu: Intel E7300 (10x) vlotage 1.120
    psu: coolermaster extreme power 500w
    memory: corsair twin2x2048-6400c5dhx pc-6400 5 5 5 18 (1.8V)
    ocz value series 2x512mb pc-4200 4 4 4 8 (1.8V)
    together rated 4 4 4 12
    graphics: ati radeon x300 pci-e x 16(plug n play, going to try to see if
    the dell drivers for this works)
    HDD: 1 maxtor sata 160 gb
    1 seagate sata 320 gb
    1 maxtor one touch III 500 gb external
    pci: m-audio 2496 pci card
    1 firewire pci card
    Uad-e pci-e x 1
    case: antec 300. 2 front 120 fans (1 not working), and the
    top and back fans that came with the case
    cooling: arctic cooling alpine 7 pro heatsink
    o/s: win xp pro

    here is my baseline set up:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 10
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: auto

    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................4
    tRCD ...................................4
    tRP'....................................4
    tRAS....................................12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..........................................2
    tWTR..........................................2
    tWR...........................................4
    tRFC..........................................28
    tRTP..........................................2
    Command Rate (CMD) ..........................:0

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………......................1.22500V
    CPU Termination…..... ..............1.200V*
    CPU PLL…………………......................1.550V*.
    CPU Referen.…………....0.805V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………......................1.100V
    MCH Reference….……..................0.760V
    ICH I/O………………......................1.550V<<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....................1.800V

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]
    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    this is my test which gives me (cpu-z)
    2997.3 core speed
    333 MHz bus speed
    1332.1 MHz
    dram freq: 399.6 MHz
    fsb-dram: 5.6
    4 6 6 18
    core temp= 40-41

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2997.3 (333.0 x 9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B

    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................4
    tRCD ...................................4
    tRP'....................................4
    tRAS....................................12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR...........................................5
    tRFC..........................................29
    tRTP..........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ..........................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………......................1.23125V
    CPU Termination…..... ..............1.240V*
    CPU PLL…………………......................1.550V*.
    CPU Referen.…………....0.805V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………......................1.100V
    MCH Reference….……..................0.760V
    ICH I/O………………......................1.550V<<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage …….....................2.000V

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]


    no probs so far but am i pushing it? nowhere in the ballpark? doing nothing significant? can i push it further?

    forgot to mention, ran orthus for 10 minutes temp rise to core 0: 55-56 core 1: 53-54 (accidentally left case open)
    Last edited by 7thangel; 01-07-2009 at 07:19 AM.
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    Corsair CX600 Builder Series 600 W/Cooler master Elite 500 W
    antec 300. 2 front 120 fans plus the top and back stock case fans (tri-cool 140 and 120)
    Intel Intergrated Graphic 4000/ATI Radeon hd 5450
    win 7 x64
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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    Ya, some of those fans have HUGE Screws aint it! I always use my own smaller screws with bolts that go thru and then use nuts to tighten them. Or Some fans I use these one, very nice >>>
    Moddersmart - I Mod Smart Do You? - Air Cooling :: Cooling Fans :: Fan Accessories :: Silencing/Anti-vibration :: Coolink Anti-Vibration Bolts

    I have to ask/advise about this before I say anything else >>>
    memory: corsair twin2x2048-6400c5dhx pc-6400 5 5 5 18 (1.8V)
    ocz value series 2x512mb pc-4200 4 4 4 8 (1.8V)
    together rated 4 4 4 12

    Is this three different models of ram? You cannot use two different models of ram together let alone 3. Even models by the same brand that are different will not be stable together. So I advise you to remove the 2xx512 for sure and start over

    And yes, you have MANY Settings way to low, even for 2x2GB

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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    no, it's two different pairs of dual channel ddr2 ram, the 'together' was the combined timings given by various apps. this was a carryover from my old system, 1st was the ocz pc-4200 and then the pc-6400 corsair. i knew i wouldn't get the performance from the pc-6400 due to the ocz but at the time i needed to make a concession on my old dell 4700. i figured that this wouldn't be ideal but i was so used to it. i'll have to check this with just the corsair later tonight.

    thanks for the link, my hands hurt like hell and the coolermaster had to have the holes shaved off a bit and the arctic one after all that trouble (i somehow cut a cut from something, i think the antec fan cage) it either doesn't work or wants me to attach it to the cpu fan connection and then connect the heatsink to it's 4 pin female connection...not even going to try it.
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    Corsair CX600 Builder Series 600 W/Cooler master Elite 500 W
    antec 300. 2 front 120 fans plus the top and back stock case fans (tri-cool 140 and 120)
    Intel Intergrated Graphic 4000/ATI Radeon hd 5450
    win 7 x64
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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    Ahh so you are only using this then? >>>
    corsair twin2x2048-6400c5dhx pc-6400 5 5 5 18 (1.8V)

    2x2GB sticks

    Got a pic of this fan that is giving you issues? Is it your CPU fan or just a case fan? If it is CPU only fan, please show me the connectors and tell me what you set in the BIOS for fan control

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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    it's the case fan, although i am using their arctic cooling alpine 7 pro heatsink with no problems

    Arctic Cooling

    PWM amplifier integrated on motor circuit
    4 pin plug for receiving power and PWM signal from motherboard
    4 pin socket for CPU cooler or second fan
    3 pin plug to send fan RPM signal to motherboard
    Regulate RPM speed of up to 5 fans by the o*nboard CPU fan controller


    as far as the memory, , i was using both, xms2 in 1/3 ocz in 2/4. i've taken out the ocz and there are some changes to the tweak due to the change in values

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2997.3 (333.0 x 9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B

    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time.................5
    tRCD ..................................5
    tRP'.....................................5
    tRAS...................................18


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..........................................3 these are the original values
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR...........................................6
    tRFC..........................................42
    tRTP..........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ...................0


    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7 original
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7 original
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:<<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:6 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:6 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:5 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:8 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………......................1.23125V
    CPU Termination…..... ..............1.240V*
    CPU PLL…………………......................1.550V*. manual
    CPU Referen.…………....0.805V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………......................1.100V
    MCH Reference….……..................0.760V
    ICH I/O………………......................1.550V<<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage …….....................2.000V

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

    vcore 1.204V
    ddr 18V 1.968V
    +3.3V 3.312V
    +12V 11.985V
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    antec 300. 2 front 120 fans plus the top and back stock case fans (tri-cool 140 and 120)
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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    Ahh, ok! You can just use the 4pin Sys_fan2 plug on the board with the small 4pin Plug and you should be fine. No need for the 3pin to be connected at all

    Best to use only ONE type of ram for sure!

    So, XMS 2x2 then right? If so, you may (Likely should) set MCH Core to 1.2-1.24

    Then set trfc to 52-62 (What you see as original is not what you would get if you loaded optimized with that ram in, just what had been previously used)

    Then you may or may not need to raise Static tRead, depends on the ram quality and other voltages being used. You may be able to use 6 as well, all depends on those things of course.

    All looks good other then those things

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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    did the changes, memtested and tested with both orthos and p95v259 with no shutdowns at max temp of 57 (orthus test).

    if i wanted to push it more how far could it go (potential vs actual) with the right tweaks? what settings should be adjusted and tested each time prior to a 'test' save?

    as far as the fan, i initially tried that connection but it wasn't working which has me thinking it's dead (just confirmed), i'll find the receipt and check the store policy.

    thanks

    note: what about memset?
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    antec 300. 2 front 120 fans plus the top and back stock case fans (tri-cool 140 and 120)
    Intel Intergrated Graphic 4000/ATI Radeon hd 5450
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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    Not sure how far those CPU's will go, I think at least 3.6 though

    Was it not working at all, or just not right when you started the system? Let it run for a few to be sure

    What about Memset? That's what I said as well

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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    man, i wasted bus fair. when i took the fan to the store, the tech/exchange dude fiddled around and got it to work by using 3 of the 4 pins of the fan connect to the mobo, and here i was thinking that a 4 pin should go to the 4 pin on the board...haven't tried to find the right pins yet but i probably should have paid the restocking fee and got a different fan.

    i'm torn, i probably should stop where i'm at;

    everest


    especially as i'm a newb to this but i'm thinking the ratio is a bit high, correct me if i'm wrong.
    Last edited by 7thangel; 01-11-2009 at 03:17 PM.
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    antec 300. 2 front 120 fans plus the top and back stock case fans (tri-cool 140 and 120)
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    Default Re: Some Guidance on My GA-EP45-DS3L and E7300

    Well a 4 pin fan should work on either 4pin or 3pin header... So that fan may still be faulty especially if he could not get it to work on a 4pin header as well

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