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    Default EP45-UD3R-new build-unresponsive

    i've posted this on tom's hardware and asked around but have yet to find a solution/explantion.

    here is the link the post on TH
    New build unresponsive

    the problem was: after boot/load, vista would run fine for a bit then the mouse/keyboard would go almost completely unresponsive. i would move the mouse around and after some time the pointer would be in a new location.

    i tried running with a single stick of ram and received the same problem. i'm asked to run chkdsk and when i do so, it flys up to 64% and sits. running in safe mode freezes at:
    loaded: \windows\system32\drivers\crcdisk.sys

    i have read a few posts but as i read more, i learn/want to learn more and get side tracked. all this is fairly new to me. i'd like to OC this system as much as i can while keeping it resonably stable. help with that would also be nice.

    thanks team,
    jonathan

    here are the specs:
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R
    EVGA 512-P3-N980-AR GeForce 9800 GT Hybrid Power
    Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
    LITE-ON 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe
    XIGMATEK HDT-S1283
    2X Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
    Antec EA650 650W ATX12V Ver.2.2
    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit
    Antex TX1050B case
    120mm rear fan
    80 mm front fan
    -all fans running at high

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R-new build-unresponsive

    So, windows asked you to run chkdsk or someone advised you of that?

    Either way, incase windows asked, please do run it. But do it this way >>>
    1. Windows Key + R
    2. Type CMD
    3. In the new Command window Type >>>
    chkdsk /x /r
    4. Accept messages presented and reboot.

    Now the chkdsk will run, and it will take a long time and may look to be frozen but it is not leave it. This may take several hours depending on your disk size and data on the disk.

    If you feel you just need help with settings, please link me to your ram and fill this in with what you are using now that is failing and I will advise back >>>

    Do note that if it IS windows asking you to do a chkdsk it will continue to do that and run it at startup until you fully let it finish. There is ways around that, but if it is windows I would advise you run it as I showed above and let it finish

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R-new build-unresponsive

    thanks for the response Lsdmeasap,

    so, yes, windows is asking me to chkdsk. through your method, am i bypassing the auto-prompt to chkdsk and then running it once windows loads? is that correct? ie should i start windows normally, then run the chkdsk via the method you described?

    here is a link to my ram. i have 2 of these kits for a total of 8gb.
    2x Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)

    Newegg.com - Patriot Viper 4GB &#40;2 x 2GB&#41; 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 &#40;PC2 8500&#41; Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

    as for the bios settings, everything is currently stock. since i am at work, i won't be able to provide that info till 9pm PST.

    i appreciate the response and the help in the meantime.

    jP

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R-new build-unresponsive

    Yes, my method would be best. It will override the Auto-Prompt and manually set a scheduled chkdsk and it will be ran once you reboot before windows starts

    Run the command I gave above as directed in windows and then click yes, and then yes again I believe it asks you two things (Not sure exactly what it says right now, but say yes to all) then reboot and it will run before windows starts

    4GB often needs several changes, here would be optimal ranges for your setup at stock. but what you should do first until you get this chkdsk out of the way is shut down and remove one stick of ram so it will be more stable, put performance enhance on standard and set your ram voltage. Then save/apply/reboot and go into windows and run the command then reboot to let chkdsk run >>>

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 4.00A
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15/18

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-4
    tWTR..........................................3-6
    tWR............................................4-6
    tRFC...........................................52-62
    tRTP...........................................3-5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore. Auto is fine if not overclocking

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65. Auto is fine if not overclocking

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 1.2-1.3 (1.22-1.26 likely fine)
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.14-1.2

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R-new build-unresponsive

    thanks for the response. i've ran the chkdsk and it seems to be running okay at stock now.

    i'll implement the suggested changes and see where i can get this thing.

    one thing...i'm trying to run 8gb of ram.


    any other suggestions???

    thanks

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R-new build-unresponsive

    Nice to hear!

    Ya, you would need a higher tRFC and possibly more MCH voltage for 8GB

    If you run into issues post me your settings you are trying that fail and I will advise

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R-new build-unresponsive

    so. i've gotten the system to run stable with these settings from the suggested

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 4.00A
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR............................................4
    tRFC...........................................52
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto 1.325

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V
    CPU Referen.…………....0.756V


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.22
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V
    ICH I/O……………….....1.50V
    ICH Core…………...……1.200V

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC



    now, i've tried to OC to 2.7, 3.0, and 3.2. with my limited knowledge i have been unsuccessful at all three.

    what am i doing wrong??? i'd like to get this thing running at 3.2 if possible!!!

    thanks for the help

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