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    Default EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

    Hello, i just purchased the EP45-DS3L and i have a Pentium D 940 Cpu. I would like to use this ram (Kingston KTD-DM8400A) These are 2x1GB sticks and all i know about them is that they are 1.8V. I could not find the timings online.

    My system will post once and then cycle power on and off and is not stable at all. I have tried changing settings but it will not work properly. I have updated the Bios to F10.

    Would someone please give me the list of settings i need to use because im tired of resetting the bios over and over again. I would like to get this working since RMA is a pain.

    Thanks in advance,
    Sam

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

    I found your ram, just incase you wanted the link, but yeah no real info other then what you know already. They are 533Mhz/PC24200 Sticks though if you did not know that >>>
    Kingston Technology Company - Kingston Memory Search - Search Results for: KTD-DM8400A/1G

    PROVANTAGE: Kingston Technology KTD-DM8400A/1G 1GB Memory for Dell A0375066/A0375074/A0498618/A0498620

    Newegg.com - Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) System Specific Memory - System Specific Memory

    Can you get into windows at all, if so please post me a screenshot of CPU-z SPD Tab so we can have a look to see if it has programmed timings or not.

    As for now, you should put performance enhance in the BIOS on standard. The rest will have to wait until I see that info. Please do also fill this in with what you are using now then I will advise back >>>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Leave
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

    Ran CPUZ on one of the sticks in a diff machine. Here are the results,



    Also, it shows my CPU as 2.4Ghz, when it should be 3.2, i belive the multiplier is wrong or something? Why doesnt this board recognize this cpu correctly?

    Here are the specs of the cpu, could you incorporate those into the config as well?

    Pentium D 940
    Clock: 3.2 GHz (Dual Core)
    L1: 16KB (Per Core)
    L2: 2048KB (Per Core)
    Multipiler: 16x
    Package: 775 Pinless
    Socket: 775
    organic mPGA
    Core: 65nm
    Vcore: 1.25-1.4V

    Thanks a lot,
    Sam
    Last edited by samops03; 01-14-2009 at 02:09 AM.

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

    Also, here is a MEMSET Screenshot:

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L w/ Pentium D Please Help

    Well the board should recognize your CPU Correctly if you HAVE loaded optimized defaults and save/apply/rebooted. Did you do that yet? If not, please do.

    If you have, then your CPU is likely clocking down due to Intel SpeedStep. Not sure if that is in older CPU's like that, but sounds like it may be. You would need to disable EIST and C1E in the advanced BIOS page to turn that off

    OK, here is what you should use as a optimal range for that setup >>>>

    Do keep in mind this board was not designed to run such slow ram or CPU's so you may always have issues until you get a newer CPU at least and some faster ram.. When the board came out it strictly did not support these CPU's and were only added later By BIOS update due to consumer issues I believe. So that likely still means the hardware was not designed for the CPU and they are only Trying to get it to work with the older CPU's as much as they can. There is MANY Cheap 45Nm CPU's and even 65Nm ones as well, starting at about $50

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 16
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.20


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 200Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66C
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 533
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................4
    tRP'...........................................4
    tRAS..........................................12

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................2-3
    tWTR..........................................2-3
    tWR............................................4-5
    tRFC...........................................28-32
    tRTP...........................................2-3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ Auto <<< You may have best luck with setting 667 here, I find one above ram speed works best and since 533 is not selectable here then I would for sure try this first

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6-8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6-8
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: Auto if not overclocking, if overclocking manually find and set your own stable voltages

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: <<< Auto if not overclocking. Please set to stock if overclocking to start with, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclocking depending on Vcore and CPU (1.2-1.5)

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Auto if not overclocking. Please set to stock if overclocking, Auto overvolts this way to much. Optimal range for overclocking 1.5-1.6

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << Auto
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< 1.5-1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.14-1.2

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.85
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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