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  1. #11
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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    hello,

    i've hit this thread from google.

    i have the exact same board (EX58-UD5, bios F7) and the exact same problem with two different usb sticks: one A-Data PD7 8GB and one no name. I can't boot with the devices connected and the and the USB Storage Legacy active.

    If the later is inactive, the drives will not be detected and I will not be able to boot from a usb stick to install an os or flash the bios. Dedication one of the drive to readyboost is also out of the question since it would mean removing it and pluging it in every time the computer powers up.

    I'll try to play around with the bios settings, keep you posted.


    LE: I'm happy to report that bios F8b (F8 beta) fixes the usb issues. GJ Gigabyte.
    Last edited by eXecu7or; 06-14-2009 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Issue resolved.

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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    It appears this issue may have returned in BIOS F9E on the EX58-UD5. Can anyone confirm?
    On F8H, I had 2 of 3 USB flash drives that could be connected during POST (working: Transcend JF V30 4GB, OCZ Diesel 4GB, Not working: Corsair Flash Voyager). On F9E, all 3 have the problem.

    To provide some clarity:
    If a USB stick is connected at boot (warm or cold), at the moment that the USB becomes active (when the mouse light normally first turns on), the POST process will stop and the USB becomes inactive.

    If the USB stick is connected via a powered HUB, the "freeze" is instantaneous - the mouse connected to the same hub lights and stays lit. If the mouse is unplugged/replugged it does not light again.

    When the USB stick is connected to a pass-through (ports connected to MB USB headers), it's LED flashes several times at lockup and the mouse on my powered hub never lights.

    As others here, all of my USB sticks function normally when connected after the OS loads. Also, they can all be connected to a old Dell XPS Gen3 at POST w/o problems - they're also bootable on that system.

    I'm leaning towards a BIOS issue. I'd be very curious to know the differences between the Corsair and the other brands and why the BIOS would react differently to them back in F8H. Although I think it's the BIOS, I hope to soon have time to strip the system to just using the rear MB ports, keyboard, mouse, and flash drives to eliminate all other variables in testing.

    My BIOS is set with both USB 1.0 and 2.0 enabled, Legacy support for keyboard and storage is enabled, Legacy support for mouse is currently disabled. Disabling legacy USB storage allows the system to boot with the flash drive connected, but eliminates my ability to boot from flash (not surprisingly).

    I'll post back with a more comprehensive test flow. I may include a fall back to F8.

    Please chime in with thoughts, experiences, or whatever may help me in narrowing this down.

    Thanks

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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    For reference.
    Here's the USB devices in question as reported by the OS. This is a report of all devices connected to the USB headers. The Corsair product is connected to the Atech card reader. The other two are connected to the case's pass-throughs.
    Sorry for the long post.
    USB High-Speed Bus:

    Host Controller Location: Built-in USB
    Host Controller Driver: XXXXXUSBEHCI (vendor obscured)
    PCI Device ID: 0x3a3a
    PCI Revision ID: 0x0000
    PCI Vendor ID: 0x8086
    Bus Number: 0xfd

    USB HD:

    Capacity: 4.01 GB (4,009,754,624 bytes)
    Removable Media: Yes
    Detachable Drive: Yes
    BSD Name: disk8
    Product ID: 0x1f00
    Vendor ID: 0x13fe (Phison Electronics Corp.)
    Version: 1.10
    Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
    Location ID: 0xfd300000
    Current Available (mA): 500
    Current Required (mA): 200
    Partition Map Type: MBR (Master Boot Record)
    S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
    Volumes:
    DIESEL:
    Capacity: 4.01 GB (4,009,711,104 bytes)
    Available: 3.99 GB (3,992,158,208 bytes)
    Writable: Yes
    File System: MS-DOS FAT32
    BSD Name: disk8s1
    Mount Point: /Volumes/DIESEL

    Mass Storage Device:

    Capacity: 4.02 GB (4,016,046,080 bytes)
    Removable Media: Yes
    Detachable Drive: Yes
    BSD Name: disk7
    Product ID: 0x6387
    Vendor ID: 0x058f (Alcor Micro, Corp.)
    Version: 1.00
    Serial Number: FRK28XS7
    Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
    Manufacturer: JetFlash
    Location ID: 0xfd400000
    Current Available (mA): 500
    Current Required (mA): 100
    Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
    S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
    Volumes:
    jetflash:
    Capacity: 3.67 GB (3,672,072,192 bytes)
    Available: 3.63 GB (3,634,159,616 bytes)
    Writable: Yes
    File System: Journaled HFS+
    BSD Name: disk7s2
    Mount Point: /Volumes/jetflash

    Flash Voyager:

    Capacity: 8.09 GB (8,086,618,112 bytes)
    Removable Media: Yes
    Detachable Drive: Yes
    BSD Name: disk6
    Product ID: 0x0ab1
    Vendor ID: 0x1b1c (CORSAIR MEMORY INC.)
    Version: 1.00
    Serial Number: 3e53de0674212a
    Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
    Manufacturer: Corsair
    Location ID: 0xfd100000
    Current Available (mA): 500
    Current Required (mA): 98
    Partition Map Type: GPT (GUID Partition Table)
    S.M.A.R.T. status: Not Supported
    Volumes:
    VOYAGER:
    Capacity: 7.74 GB (7,742,644,224 bytes)
    Available: 4.18 GB (4,178,460,672 bytes)
    Writable: Yes
    File System: HFS+
    BSD Name: disk6s2
    Mount Point: /Volumes/VOYAGER

    Media Reader:

    Product ID: 0x6118
    Vendor ID: 0x11b0 (ATECH FLASH TECHNOLOGY)
    Version: 97.36
    Serial Number: A00000007
    Speed: Up to 480 Mb/sec
    Manufacturer: XM5UE
    Location ID: 0xfd200000
    Current Available (mA): 500
    Current Required (mA): 500

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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    Pretty much the same thing - different stick:
    A Gigabyte tale of USB woe!

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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbat View Post
    Pretty much the same thing - different stick:
    A Gigabyte tale of USB woe!
    Bill I had a similiar thing on my PC in regard to an Acronis Disk director 10 boot Disk and AHCI (& extermal USB drive connected). Reading your post at the linked address reminded me how it reset my Overclocking Settings and also corrupted some of the boot files which i had to repair using the Vista install disk and BCD edit.

    Interestingly though and I have similiar problems to this before, however using my IDE cd/dvd drive eliminates the problems with Some Bootable CD's (created usually via ISO). So hence I still have two cd/dvd drives as they are a tenth of the price I used to pay in my PC's, but one still has to be IDE.

    It seems as though there is an issue with some USB bootable capable devices which seems more noticeable if you are in AHCI mode. Add something like an SATA cd/dvd drive to the mix and all sorts of weird things happen.
    In fact I now have noters as to what combinations work and if an external drive should be on etc..
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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    Turns out that if any of my USB media is formatted in HFS+, the UD5 freezes early in the POST process (see my previous posting). When I reformatted my USB stick with FAT, there were no problems.
    This isn't an actual solution in my situation, but it sure helps to know the cause.
    Is anyone able to pass POST with an HFS+ formatted USB drive inserted? If so, which BIOS are you using? I am currently running F9K.
    Thanks,
    Lylehm
    -------------------
    UPDATE: An HFS+ format on it's own is not the problem. The lock seems to only occur when a bootloader is installed on the volume (PC-EFI or Chameleon) I'll test more to narrow down the issue. If someone has already figured this out, please post! Thanks!
    Last edited by lylehm; 12-28-2009 at 09:13 PM. Reason: new pertinent info.

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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    Quote Originally Posted by salada2k View Post
    Hi,



    When I plug the BT receiver out of the hub and directly into a USB port its fine.


    Salada
    You found the solution. Lot of problems whit Usb-Hubs.
    Have a hub for 2.0 and says 1.1 this can faster.
    Problems whit 3 machines at home.
    Try hub at Friends computers: 2 working 2.0 usb, 1 says 1.1 usb, they are al 2.0 usb
    Frits

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    Default Re: EX58 UD5 BIOS crash with Sandisk Cruzer USB stick

    it has to be formatted to fat32 for it to read any bios installed on a usb stick
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