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    Default Re: Some help please

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Ya 7 is not going to work on the 400/D Strap/Memory Multi's without some extremes, you will need to use 8/9 or above or adjust your strap to 333/B Strap/Memory Multi's.

    Without using extreme voltages these are the normal working ranges >>>
    6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH

    Of course all other settings, voltages, and Ram quality also are a factor

    Can you boot at that FSB using the 2.00B Multi? You likely will have to, and should already, raise your Vtt a bit. Do keep in mind the other advanced Settings left in Auto may be too low and should be manually set
    Hallo Lsdmeasap,

    Can you please say what I have to change, so correct settings. please!!
    Just say and I will set and try, would be great! Thanks in advance! What is Vtt? My RAM is from OCZ.

    Settings I have so far in BIOS:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 400 (400x9 = 3,6GHz)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100MHz

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400MHz
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: Auto
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... Auto
    tWTR.......................................... Auto
    tWR............................................ Auto
    tRFC........................................... Auto
    tRTP........................................... Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.35V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.57V (couldn't choose 1.55V)
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Same
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: <<< Same

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.26V
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Same
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Same
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Same
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Same

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same

    Again, would be great if you got suggestions for numbers I have to set to!
    Thank you!

    Regards,

    killman
    Last edited by killman; 02-23-2009 at 05:06 AM.

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    Default Re: Some help please

    Sorry for not saying, Vtt is CPU Termination Voltage

    Try these out and see how you get along >>>

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 400 (400x9 = 3,6GHz)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400Mhz << I would use 401
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100MHz

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12/15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-4
    tWTR.......................................... 4-8
    tWR............................................ 6-10
    tRFC........................................... 58-72
    tRTP........................................... 4-8
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8/9-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8/9-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.35V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V << This is Vtt, Try 1.22-1.28 and see if it helps any

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.57V (couldn't choose 1.55V)
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Same
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: <<< Same

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.26V
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Same
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Same
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Same
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Same

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same

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    Default Re: Some help please

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Sorry for not saying, Vtt is CPU Termination Voltage

    Try these out and see how you get along >>>

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 400 (400x9 = 3,6GHz)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400Mhz << I would use 401
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100MHz

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12/15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-4
    tWTR.......................................... 4-8
    tWR............................................ 6-10
    tRFC........................................... 58-72
    tRTP........................................... 4-8
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8/9-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8/9-10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.35V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V << This is Vtt, Try 1.22-1.28 and see if it helps any

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.57V (couldn't choose 1.55V)
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Same
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: <<< Same

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.26V
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Same
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Same
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Same
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Same

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same

    Hi Lsdmeasap,

    Thank you for your reply. Why should I use 401MHz FSB for the CPU?

    Again, thx I will give it a try!!

    Regards,

    killman

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    Default Re: Some help please

    I just always suggest 401 or 399 so you are not right on the 400 Strap line, could possibly cause instability issues. Not a proven thing or anything, just one of the things I go buy I guess

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    Default Re: Some help please

    Hi Lsdmeasap,

    I tried it a few hours ago but it wouldn't work with that settings. The computer just wouldn't boot.

    The settings I have now:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 423 (423x9 = 3,8GHz)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 423Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100MHz

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: Auto
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 3
    tWTR.......................................... 3
    tWR............................................ 3
    tRFC........................................... 52
    tRTP........................................... 3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.35V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.2V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.57V
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< Same
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: <<< Same

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.26V
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Same
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Same
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: <<< Same
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Same

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Same

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    Default Re: Some help please

    So are those stable? Where are you wanting to go from there, or do you want suggestions about those settings and how to maybe lower them?

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    Default Re: Some help please

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    So are those stable? Where are you wanting to go from there, or do you want suggestions about those settings and how to maybe lower them?
    Yes, it's stable and very fast :D

    I would like to have a faster tRead value, because I saw it on this article and noticed it makes a huge differance.

    The article: AnandTech: ASUS ROG Rampage Formula: Why we were wrong about the Intel X48

    So.. can this be done, or don;t you think it will makes a differance, because it won't work on air cooling? or because it's very hard to get that value..?

    I also updated my BIOS from F6 to F9. :)

    Thanks in advance!

    Regards,

    killman

    EDIT: The Vcore is 1.28V in CPUZ
    Last edited by killman; 02-28-2009 at 05:02 AM.

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    Default Re: Some help please

    Nice to see you`re going well, what are the differences between F6 & F9 bios?
    NZXT Hush case
    EP45-DS3P Motherboard
    G.Skill F2-8500 CL5-2GbPK RAM
    Q6600 GO CPU @ 3Ghz
    OCZ Vendetta 2 HSF
    Samsung spinpoint F1 HDD
    Samsung sata DVD drive
    Gigabyte HD4850 1Gb graphics card
    Coolermaster igreen 600w PSU

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    Default Re: Some help please

    Quote Originally Posted by MrGav View Post
    Nice to see you`re going well, what are the differences between F6 & F9 bios?
    Hi MrGav,

    Glad to hear from you again!!

    Nice to see you still check this thread!

    Her you can see what the differance is: GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EP45-DS3 (rev. 1.0)

    I always update to the latest BIOS of my own build .

    Regards,

    killman
    Last edited by killman; 02-28-2009 at 08:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killman View Post
    Hi MrGav,

    Glad to hear from you again!!

    Nice to see you still check this thread!

    Her you can see what the differance is: GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EP45-DS3 (rev. 1.0)

    I always update to the latest BIOS of my own build .

    Regards,

    killman
    Just wondered what the difference was for you, I`m not gonna update my bios unless I get a problem.
    I keep a check on this thread cos you were struggling to get some answers and I like a happy ending

    Good to see Lsdmeasp back too and helping you out with Nickel020,when I start to push my rig a bit more I think I`ll borrow some of your settings ; )

    Regards

    MrGav
    NZXT Hush case
    EP45-DS3P Motherboard
    G.Skill F2-8500 CL5-2GbPK RAM
    Q6600 GO CPU @ 3Ghz
    OCZ Vendetta 2 HSF
    Samsung spinpoint F1 HDD
    Samsung sata DVD drive
    Gigabyte HD4850 1Gb graphics card
    Coolermaster igreen 600w PSU

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