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    Red face Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    Guys,

    I need your help here. I am quite happy running my rig @ 3.4GHz and may the odd time want to go beyond. I just want to make sure Im doing the right thing (being new to whole OC'ing). Here's my spec:

    EP45-UD3P
    Q9550 (C1)
    2x2GB Transcend AxeRAM 1066+ (mini review)
    Gigabyte 9800 GTX+ 1GB
    Corsair 750TW
    Zalman CNPS9700 NT CPU COOLER
    3 x Case fans

    I copied the Bios from someone elses post and added my values. I wish I knew how to export the bios into a txt file so I could just copy and paste my settings here. Ive added "<" to show you where I made changes, otherwise it is default/auto.

    I need help with CPU VCORE, MCH, DRAM settings etc.... sorry! & Please! I would really appreciate it as I know the settings could be alot more tidy than this. CHEERS!


    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [AUTO]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [8 X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: [+0.5]<
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.40GHz[400x8.5]

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [ENABLED]<
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: [400 Mhz]<
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [100]<
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[DISABLED]

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]<
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [900mV]<
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [0ps]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]<
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: [N/A]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [400]<
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [2.66D]<
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: [1066]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [MANUAL]<
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 5<
    tRCD .........................................: 5<
    tRP'...........................................: 5<
    tRAS..........................................: 15<
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................: 4 [AUTO]
    tWTR..........................................: 4 [AUTO]
    tWR............................................: 8 [AUTO]
    tRFC...........................................: 68 [AUTO]
    tRTP...........................................: 4 [AUTO]
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: : 0 [AUTO]
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................: [AUTO]
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10 [8]<
    REST SET TO AUTO
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 10 [8]
    REST SET TO AUTO[/B]
    [B]
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………......................: 1.16250V...... [1.28750]<
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: 1.200V [AUTO]
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V.......: 1.500V [1.500]<
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V.......: 0.760V [AUTO]
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.100V [AUTO]
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........: 0.760V [AUTO]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.900V [AUTO]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.500V [AUTO]
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100V [AUTO]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.800V [2.000]<
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.900V [AUTO]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.900V [AUTO]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.900V [AUTO]

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    Just a few things I forgot to add:

    I noticed at load @ 3.4GHz CPU-Z shows CPU VCORE @ 1.200V. When idle its 1.248V.

    Another thing im not sure about is when at idle CPU-Z displays my core speed at 2.400MHz and Multiplier x 6.0. When active or at load it shows 3.400MHz and Multiplier x 8.5.

    My memory is running @ 533.3MHz with 3:4 FSB:DRAM 5-5-5-15 2T . Im not quite sure that that should be different to my bios setting. Did I miss something or is something odd here?

    Also Real Temp measures cores at av. 51C @ load. I guess I dont have to worry about temps, or?

    Thanks

    TiK

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    It's normal for Vcore to drop a little under load.
    The lower multiplier when Idle is speedstep aka EIST, it lowers the multiplier and when you're nto voerclocking it also lowers VCore to save power.

    Memory speed is what yous et it at. DDR RAm runs at half the speed it#s marketed at, but transfers two bit of data per clock cycle (hence the double speed). So 533MHz real RAM speed is 1066MHz effective speed, which is what it's set to (400 x 2.66).

    51C is very good under load.

    You may want to set CPU termination manually to 1.2V and see if that's stable, AUTO increases it a little too much when overclocking. All other settings are perfectly fine, there's nor eason not to runt he system 24/7 with your current settings.


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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    Just to add to nickels response.
    The whats next is, from what ive seen 4 ghz maybe 4.2 on your cpu if youre doing a bit of clocking.
    1.4 cpu volts ,1.4 mch volts and 2.0-2.28volts on ram seem to be the max mild to high overclock limits.Any settings above those its "I didnt do it"

    Im still pottering around my sig, n its very good really compared to my last mbrd but there is allways the urge to push it.Auto works for a lot of things while testing(ive found).
    The good thing is,if you are testing you can save a bios template that you know is good for you .n reload it and adjust from that.
    Last edited by kick; 03-05-2009 at 08:52 AM.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    I agree ^^^ about the 4Ghz

    Would you like to know about clocking higher, if so let me know.

    Here is what I would suggest as optimal settings for all of your above overclock

    I do see you changes some things you should not have had to change. So, did you ever load and apply optimized defaults and save/apply and reboot before you started overclocking? If not, you should for sure do that now. This is a MUST anytime you flash your BIOS or install new hardrware/build a system. Please read here for things you need to keep in mind after you load optimized defaults as there is a few things you must do before you load windows again after doing so >>>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/

    I would advise you do load optimized defaults and then reboot and make your disk changes and reboot again and then re-enter all of your overclock settings

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [AUTO OR Fast]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [8 X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.40GHz[401x8.5]

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [ENABLED]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: [401 Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [100]

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[DISABLED]

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [0ps]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]

    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [2.66D]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: [1066]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [MANUAL]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 5
    tRCD .........................................: 5
    tRP'...........................................: 5
    tRAS..........................................: 15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................: 3-4
    tWTR..........................................: 3-6
    tWR............................................: 4-6
    tRFC...........................................: 52-62
    tRTP...........................................: 3-5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: : 2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................: 1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8-10

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8-10

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………......................: 1.16250V...... [1.28750] All up to your chip
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: 1.200V << Do NOT USE AUTO. 1.2-1.24 should be good for this setup

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V.......: 1.500V-.158
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V.......: 0.760V [AUTO]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.100V-1.24 (1.20-1.24 likely best)
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........: 0.760V [AUTO]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.900V [AUTO]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.500V-1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.14

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.9-2.05
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.900V [AUTO]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.900V [AUTO]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.900V [AUTO]

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    Thanks for the input guys. Like I expected. I made a good few BOO BOO's already and thats why I knew it was a good thing to post on this forum.

    Yes, I used @bios to update to the latest stable one. And no I didnt apply optimized defaults like you suggested and no, I didnt apply Fail-Safe defaults like gigabyte suggests in the downloadable pdf guide for Q-Flash.

    I got to count myself lucky that nothing bad happened and I have learnt my lesson! This is what happens when you get a lifetime mac user that starts building PC's :D

    Anyways, thanks again guys. You most likely saved my hide in the future.

    Just a quick question about my ram. If you could take a look at the mini review linked in my first post, is there anything else I should be aware of in regards to ram settings, voltage and timings?

    Cheers as always.

    TiK

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    Never heard of the ram before myself
    But just from your mini review it looks ideal for running your machine up to whatever is stable.For lower fsb speeds and 4-4-4-12 timings it seems my gskill memory is slightly better ,but thats what my memory is sold as 800mhz hi performance memory.
    Right now Im beating it hard on voltages 2.2-2.3 and Ive probably gone far enough
    Yours looks like it will be good at 1066mhz all the way to your max stable overclock on the cpu at very good voltages.
    Check the sticky guides posted above for "maximising performance"
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    Thanks for the info. I should have probably gone for ram that atleast other people might have so I could atleast compare etc...

    I'll be slowly experimenting with higher OC'ing soon enough. Im already addicted, but as you can see from my reply earlier, I have already made a mistake (thank god I got away with it) - so I going to do lots of nosing around on the forum here and just take it step by step.

    Who knows, maybe in 6 months I'll be cooling my rig with liquid nitrogen :D

    TiK

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    WELL HERES A HEAD SCRATCHER!

    I use this comp to run both XP and MAC OSX (using Efi-x device). After tweaking the BIOS settings using Lsdmeasap's suggestions (THANKS BTW!), I booted into MAC OSX and ran a Geekbench test to get a nose for the performance increase. After that, I ran the same test in XP same bios settings.

    MACOSX
    Computer scores 7280 overall w/ memory performance 3928

    XP
    Computer scores 6115 overall w/ memory performance 3037

    Anyways, I think im going to look for a different crossplatform bench test app to double check that result. I knew it might be different but I couldnt imagine that much.

    TiK

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    Default Re: Whats next? 3.4GHz Q9550 & UD3P

    Quote Originally Posted by TiK View Post
    I copied the Bios from someone elses post and added my values. I wish I knew how to export the bios into a txt file so I could just copy and paste my settings here.

    All I do is highlight and copy(right click) the Settings from one of these posts, then, open "notepad" in windows or some other word processing utility. The paste(again right click) it in ther, and save it. So you can repost it easily.

    Also if you put "[c.o.d.e]" at the beginning and "[/c.o.d.e]"(note, take out the periods(".") had to do that so it would show correctly, lol) at the end you get a box with a scroll button so you dont take up huge amounts of page space in your posts

    Like this:
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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............:Turbo
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 400x9 3600
    
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mv
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: ops
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: Turbo
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Profile2
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.66D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................4
    tRAS..........................................14
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR............................................4
    tRFC...........................................52
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................Auto
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.250v
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200v
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Auto
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*.......: Auto
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.1v or 1.22 if going slightly higher
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Auto
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.06V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]
    If you want you can just copy this, by clicking on "quote" on this post and copy it and save it.
    Last edited by SpeedEuphoria; 03-06-2009 at 10:27 AM.
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