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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    If the memory is looking good I'm betting you've got a defective Mobo/CPU or PSU my self. Your PSU has very good reviews so it shouldn't be an issue of quality or efficiency though of course bad lemons happen with all brands regardless.

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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    I was able to enable AHCI mode. I ran LinX overnight and woke up to a BSOD. I don't know if this proves anything because even if I just leave the computer sitting there without any test, I will end up with a BSOD. Also, I still can't even run a lot of apps.. If I try to run some apps, it times out after 20 seconds with a (took too long to execute or execution error). I am fairly certain it is not the PS, because I have replaced my previous generic PS with the highly rated Corsair PS. If I play around with the Vcore/MCH I eventually find a combo that at least allows me to be able to run all my apps without the timeout error, (however, it is still unstable because I will eventually end up with a BSOD). Pretty much the only thing that hasn't been replaced on this system is the CPU. I always thought that a bad CPU will not be able to boot up. I have read many people with success with this CPU/MB combo, so I am wondering if the CPU is really bad?

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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    You know I think that's true. I can't see how a CPU could only *half* work but then again stranger things have happened. http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...r-problem.html that thread for example is a great example of mysterious issues remaining despite doing everything possible basically with out any success.

    What I do know can happen to CPUs is that over time when overclocked using higher voltages they will degrade at a faster rate vs a stock clocked CPU but the thing is if you haven't been OCing this shouldn't even be a factor, not to mention if you back down the OC you'll usually have stock working, you just lose most of your OC ability.

    I'm guessing you've got a lemon CPU and either A: the CPU its self requires some special combination of voltages through out the Mobo to work or B: the CPU and the Mobo aren't playing well together and again either due to a lemon PSU or memory (though memory seems good) that these devices are just not playing well together. :|

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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    BTW, I just ran the Intel CPU diagnostic tool.. No problems.. I'm so perplexed!

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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    Some diagnostic tools are more rigorous than others.
    Running IBT or LinX for more than 10 loops using 2048MB of memory is cpu abuse. DON'T RUN VERY LONG IBT or LINX TESTS!!
    Running Prime95 or OCCT overnight tests are excellent for pointing out problems that lead to instability.
    You can read about Prime95 stress testing by clicking on the Prime95 tutorial link in my signature.

    HCI Memtest freeware can be run in windows and will often find any problems quicker than Prime95 or OCCT.
    Their are detailed instructions on their website: HCI MemTest: RAM reliability tester for Windows

    HCI Memtest is completely separate from Memtest86+.

    Get testing, NOW!!
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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    What will all these tests tell me? That my system is unstable? I know my system is unstable! I want to know why and how can I fix it!

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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    when you get a BSOD can you post what the error code was... it's not gibberish if you know what it means...

    0x00000101 = too low or too high vcore
    0x00000124 = too low or too high QPI
    0x0000000A, 0x0000005A, 0x000000C9 = Memory Related from my experience
    0x000000A7 = SATA driver related, too high PCIe Freq or PCIe VTT too low...

    for the BSOD that you had, do you remember what it was?

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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    Windows Event Viewer might provide some helpful information when a BSOD occurs.
    Resplendence Software - WhoCrashed, automatic crash dump analyzer (freeware) is an excellent program that collects BSOD information.

    Knowing the last FFT size that fails in Prime95 or OCCT will help point to the problem being cpu or memory related even when a worker fails and there isn't a BSOD.
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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    Is this error common when changing voltages? When I try to open a program (not all), that error pops up after about 30-40 seconds. I'm having troublae even running the tests!
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    Default Re: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P and E8500 help

    Modifying voltages can cause instability to a system, but usually when overclocking and not having enough voltage.

    is it always the same applications that cause an issue, or does the issue move?

    Vin
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    OS = Win8.1
    CPU = i7-980X @ 4.17Ghz 144x29 cooled by custom Loop
    Mem = 12GB 2000Mhz corsair Dominator GT at 2010Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-2T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3 e770
    GPU = 2x Sapphire r9 290x in xfire
    HD = 2x Toshiba 120GB Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 2TB WD Black
    PSU = EVGA SuperNOVA 1300w
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

    HTPC / Home Server
    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2011 Virtual Machine with 8GB ram assigned for homer server with exchange
    CPU = AMD 1090T
    Mem = 16GB 1600Mhz Kingston RED Limited Edition running at 1600Mhz
    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
    Case = Too embarrassed to mention.

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