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    Default Re: EX58-Extreme, i7 and cooling

    I personally am running the i7 920, on the UD4P board, and with the thermalright ultra 120 with fan I'm not getting higher than 26 degrees Celsius. Of course, I have yet to OC anything, and running "Optimized Defaults", but I seem to be getting great success with that heatsink/fan. I was weary because the fan does not seem to push much air, but its a pretty stable temp at idle.

    I'm having some other kinks with the audio and LAN drivers, once I get them sorted, I'll start OC'ing for my first time, and get back to you with my temperature results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C3D76 View Post
    Hey Rabbit,

    I'm thinking you might be having problems because of the High voltage settings in the guide. I think I would BSOD too if I put them that high.....

    -Here is a screenshot with the voltages I use for 4Ghz:
    3.99GHz @ 1.296 (F4m)- ICH=1.16v
    http://photoshare.shaw.ca/image/c/6/...21-0.jpg?rev=0

    The only other (important) changes I make after "load Optimized Defaults" are
    C1e= off
    C2,c2,c3...= off
    Ram= 2:8 + spec'd timings + voltage
    Uncore freq= x17
    QPI link = x36
    BCLK = 190


    If you are not stable, Try increasing:
    Cpu Vcore-> max 1.55v
    QPI VTT-> max 1.35v
    QPI PLL-> max 1.35v
    CPU PLL-> 1.84v
    IOH-> 1.35v
    ICH I/O -> 1.6v
    ICH-> 1.25
    Max Voltages from intel: http://img2.abload.de/img/datasheetmtu2.jpg


    -Check the following screenshot @ 4.2, I hardly had to change any of the voltages from 4.0 apart from CPU Vcore, which required a huge bump from 4.0 to 4.2Ghz.
    QPI Vtt voltage is lower because my Patriot 1600 C9 kit required less voltage at the time (looser timings?)...

    4.2GHz @ 1.44v (F4m)
    http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/373/200f4m2zw8.jpg


    - For my 24/7 I use the following BIOS settings (sig) @ 4.1, in BIOS F3:

    C1e= off
    C2,c2,c3...= off
    Ram= 2:8 (7-7-7-24-2t, 1.64v)
    Uncore freq= x18
    QPI link = x36
    BCLK = 195
    Cpu Vcore-> 1.3625
    QPI VTT-> 1.32v
    QPI PLL-> 1.20v
    CPU PLL-> 1.80v
    IOH-> 1.20v
    ICH I/O -> 1.60v
    ICH-> 1.20


    It might just be your CPU hitting a wall, or a weak mem controller. Can you OC the CPU higher if you use the 2:6 ratio for the RAM?

    Hope this helps,

    Ced
    i follow your setings and system iw unstable .when runing realtemp+prime95 crash.bsod.temps over 86.cooler is asus triton88+artic ceramique.maybe have problem with paste? try beter artic silver5?

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    @asmallrabbit

    It all depends on your skills and tools how hard it is to cut a fan hole, but it is pretty easy I think. If you have a dremel and want to cut then it should be pretty easy for ya.

    Have you tried your fan on your CPU Heatsink pulling air instead of pushing? Might want to see if that is any better, or add another fan so one pushes and one pulls.

    @ notios7

    Try some TX-2 or MX-2, you will like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    @asmallrabbit

    It all depends on your skills and tools how hard it is to cut a fan hole, but it is pretty easy I think. If you have a dremel and want to cut then it should be pretty easy for ya.

    Have you tried your fan on your CPU Heatsink pulling air instead of pushing? Might want to see if that is any better, or add another fan so one pushes and one pulls.

    @ notios7

    Try some TX-2 or MX-2, you will like it!
    TX-2 or MX-2 ? sorry i dont understand.help me please!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    @asmallrabbit

    It all depends on your skills and tools how hard it is to cut a fan hole, but it is pretty easy I think. If you have a dremel and want to cut then it should be pretty easy for ya.

    Have you tried your fan on your CPU Heatsink pulling air instead of pushing? Might want to see if that is any better, or add another fan so one pushes and one pulls.
    I'm familiar with tools just not sure what the best way to do it would be. I was thinking of either marking a pattern and drilling out a grill for the fan to push/pull air through the side of the case, or just outright cutting a hole and then getting some wire mesh/filter to put over it. I'm basing where I would put the holes on how hot my case feels after ive been using it for awhile. An intake fan in front of the cpu cooler where the side is usually cool or only slightly warm, and an exhaust where the side gets quite warm.

    I only tried changing the orientation of my cooler from left/right to up/down. The way my case is and how the cooler sits, its pretty much right inline with my rear exahust fan. so ive got my cooler fan pushing air over the fins which is then sucked out the back of the case. I don't know that adding another fan on the back of my cooler would work as it would be too close to that rear exhaust fan. I tried it up/down for a bit but then its either pulling air from near my video card which wont be as cool or blowing hot air at it which I dont want either.

    Cpu temps haven't seemed too high lately, but I want to get my system temps down as it seems to get quite warm. Where is the system temperature measured from? Could I have done something wrong installing the bridge cooling? Name escapes me at the moment, but the piece that came with the extreme mobo that fits like an expansion card and screws into the north bridge iirc.
    Code:
    ------------------------------------------------------
    | <         |                  |         DVD          |
    | <   PSU   |                  |                      |
    | <         |                  |                      |
    |---~~~~~---                   |                      |
    |   ^^^^                       |                      |
    S< < <^^^    ////              |                      |
    S< < <       llllS < < < TRUE  |                      |
    S< < <       llllS < < <        ----------------------|
    |120mm       ////                      |              |
    | exhaust                              |              |
    |                                      |              |
    |                                               < < < S
    | --GTX 285 -----                               < < < S120mm intake
    | ---------------                               < < < S
    |                                      |      HD      |
    ------------------------------------------------------
    A rough idea of my case..... Im thinking of adding an intake fan on the side just in front of where my TRUE is to suck cold air in and an exhaust fan on the side near my gtx 285 as an exhaust to get rid of some more heat. The area behind my cooler is very crowded and is usually very warm from the psu + air coming off my cooler. Would a vent there be a good idea as well or compete with the exhaust + cpu fans trying to suck the hot air out?
    Last edited by asmallrabbit; 03-12-2009 at 02:00 AM.

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    @ notios7

    Those are Thermal Pastes

    MX-2
    Newegg.com - ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease

    TX-2 (I use this kind)
    Newegg.com - Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease

    @ asmallrabbit

    Here is some templates for ya (PDF one is best) >>>
    Fan Hole Templates.zip

    Ya if you dont have room between the rear exhaust fan to add another fan on your heatsink to pull air then you may not be able to. Have you measured or held a fan there to guesstimate if you can put on like that or not yet? If not, I would check it out

    I would not use it in a up/down fashion, just front to back like you have it

    The "System" is close to the NB, just in the PCB so overall temp really but affected by the NB

    I don't think you could mess up the Bridge cooling, did you read the manual when you installed it? It sticks out the back of the case right? You could add a fan onto that if you wanted, or redo the paste under the NB. What is your MCH Temps anyway, now and before you added the extra cooling bridge thing?

    I would only add a fan on your side maybe directly in the middle of the top GFX Card and the CPU so they both get a little bit of cool air. Exhaust on the side may disrupt airflow. You could also add a 120MM up top in the middle as exhaust to remove any warm dead air that may linger there, between your DVD and PSU I mean
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    @c3d76

    Tried your bios settings and it still wasnt stable, not sure if I missed something or not. What is the proper way to go in "steps" when overclocking? Its easy enough to get the cpu to around 4 but then I dont know what to adjust and by how much to try and get it stable, or tell if if just wont work.

    @lsdmeasap

    I checked last night, and there would be room for another fan on my TRUE to pull air so I have a push/pull setup, but it would be pointing directly at my rear exhaust fan with only a few cm's inbetween. Should I still try to do this or would the two fans so close together conflict with each other?

    I don't recgonize MCH, what does that stand for? When I installed the birdige cooling I just put a little bit of paste on the back of it then slid it into place and put the screws in like the manual said.

    I'm unable to add a fan over the top of my cpu and gfx card because I don't have enough clearence between the side of my case and my TRUE. Thats why I was thinking of an exhaust slightly under it and centered more or less on the graphics card. Why would the side fans maybe be a bad idea or disrupt airflow? The more hot air leaving the case and the more cool air coming in the better, no?

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    I think they would be fine close, if they are around the same speed. Even if the rear is a bit faster that would be ok as it would just pull the other a little faster. Try it out and compare the temps. May not help much, but normally it will

    Sorry about that MCH Comment, I assume everyone knows what it what and I shouldn't do that as much as I do. It is the NB (North Bridge) and in X58 this is called IOH Core

    Ahh ya, I didn't think about how tall that TRUE would be in your case. I think one would be fine. I said it would be a bad idea because I thought you had mentioned two on the side, that would often disrupt air flow

    The more hot air leaving the case and the more cool air coming in the better, no?
    Yes, kinda. But you do not want to much more coming in then going out or you will have pressure issues in there and cause dead air spots

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    If I was to add just one fan on the side then would it work better as an exhaust or intake? Especially right over the gfx card/NB?

    Also, is there a step by step I can follow when overclocking where if my system is not stable I will know what to change until it us? Do I just keep stepping up voltages little by little or...?

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    If you did, right over the GFX, I would do intake. But of course, keep in mind you can switch it easily around and test both ways.

    I have not seen many X58 guides yet, not good ones anyway. Google will give a few simple ones but again not very in depth or anything. Have you seen the one posted here in the First post of the Beta BIOS thread? If not check it out, and here is a few others will some pointers/tips >>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/ther...x58-ud5-30633/

    Intel Core i7 920 Overclocking Introduction Guide on X58

    Nice thread here with plenty of info as well >>
    Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread - XtremeSystems Forums

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