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Thread: UD3P+8500 Over 4.1ghz is it posbile?




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    Default Re: UD3P+8500 Over 4.1ghz is it posbile?

    Hi Lsdmeasap, reporting some results of my last attempt.

    BIOS settings / Memory timings:

    tRRD .............[4] [Auto]
    tWTR.............[4] [Auto]
    tWR...............[8] [Auto]
    tRFC..............[68] [Auto]
    tRTP..............[4] [Auto]
    CMD ..............[0] [2]

    Memtest result


    Current settings on bios and orthos stable small FTT
    Code:
    ******Gigabyte EP45 UD3P******
    
    E8500 500 X 8.5 4250MHz BIOS F7
    
    Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto     ] 
    CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8        ] 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ 0.5        ] 
    CPU Frequency 4.0GHz...........................[ 500 x 8.5  ]
    
    ******Clock Chip Control******
    
    CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 500      ] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 100      ]
    C.I.A 2 ..................................................[Disabled] 
    
    ******Advanced Clock Control******
    
    CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 700mv   ] 
    PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv   ] 
    CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps      ]
    MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ] 
    
    ******DRAM Performance Control******
    
    Performance Enhance .............................[Standard] 
    Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)....................[ Disabled ] 
    (G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 400MHz   ] 
    System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00D    ] 
    Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1000     ] 
    DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual   ] 
    
    CAS Latency Time................................[ 5        ] 
    tRCD............................................[ 5        ] 
    tRP.............................................[ 5        ] 
    tRAS............................................[ 15       ] 
    
    ******Advanced Timing Control******
    
    tRRD............................................[ 4    ] Auto
    tWTR............................................[ 4     ] Auto
    tWR.............................................[ 8    ] Auto
    tRFC............................................[ 68       ] Auto
    tRTP............................................[ 4     ] Auto
    Command Rate (cmd)..............................[ 2T     ] 
    
    ******Channel A Timing Settings******     
    
    Static tRead Value        [ 11 ] ................[ 9        ] 
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto     ] 
    
    ******Channel A Driving Settings****** 
    
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto     ] 
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ]
    
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ]
    
    ******Channel B Timing Settings******     
    
    Static tRead Value        [ 11 ] ................[ 9        ] 
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto     ] 
    
    ******Channel B Driving Settings****** 
    
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto     ] 
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ]
    
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ]
    
    ******Motherboard Voltage Control******
    
    Load-Line Calibration [Enabled] 
    CPU Vcore         [ 1.25 ]...................[ 1.4250  ] 
    CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.34     ]
    CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.61   ]
    CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.888   ] ET6 Show 0.800
    
    MCH Core          [1.1      ]...................[ 1.40    ]  
    MCH Reference     [0.760    ]...................[ 0.763   ] ET6 Show 0.7
    MCH/DRAM Refernce [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ] 
    ICH I/O           [1.500    ]...................[ 1.570   ] 
    ICH Core          [1.100    ]...................[ 1.200   ] 
    
    DRAM Voltage      [1.800    ]...................[ 2.080    ] 
    DRAM Termination  [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ] 
    Channel A Ref     [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ] 
    Channel B Ref     [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ]  
    
    ******Advanced BIOS Features******
    
    Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ] 
    No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]  
    CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]  
    C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]  
    C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ] 
    CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Enabled ] 
    CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ] 
    Virtualization Technology.......................[ Enabled ]
    Blend test make computer restart before 2 min...
    Intel I5 4690K 4.2GHZ
    Gigabyte Z97MX Gaming 5
    2x8GB gSkill DDR3 1600Mhz
    1x SSD Sandisk Extreme II 240GB
    1x Seagate 1000GB (DATA)
    1x Samsung 750GB (DATA)
    MSI Geforce GTX 960 2GB
    Phanteks
    Seaconic Modular 620W
    Aerocool Dead Silence
    Windows 7 64bits

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    Default Re: UD3P+8500 Over 4.1ghz is it posbile?

    Make these changes and tests again with memtest, then Blend >>>

    CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 700mv ] << Set 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv ]
    CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 50ps ] << Set 0

    Drive Strength Profile BOTH CHANNELS ..........................[ Auto ] << Try 1066


    CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................[ 0.888 ] ET6 Show 0.800 << Set AUTO

    MCH Core [1.1 ]...................[ 1.40 ] << WOW, why so much? Try out 1.24-1.3, and also try 1.05-1.15

    DRAM Voltage [1.800 ]...................[ 2.080 ] << Set 2.12


    If none of that helps, try a higher MCH Ref amount like .73-.78%

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    Default Re: UD3P+8500 Over 4.1ghz is it posbile?

    Hi, long time no posting, but i`m back with some news and questions.

    Well with the settings bellow:
    Code:
    ******Gigabyte EP45 UD3P******
    
    E8500 500 X 8.5 4250MHz BIOS F7
    
    Robust Graphics Booster.........................[ Auto     ] 
    CPU Clock Ratio.................................[ 8        ] 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio............................[ 0.5        ] 
    CPU Frequency 4.0GHz...........................[ 500 x 8.5  ]
    
    ******Clock Chip Control******
    
    CPU Host Clock Control..........................[ Enabled  ] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)........................[ 500      ] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz).....................[ 102      ]
    C.I.A 2 ..................................................[Disabled] 
    
    ******Advanced Clock Control******
    
    CPU Clock Drive.................................[ 700mv   ]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.........................[ 900mv   ] 
    CPU Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps      ] 
    MCH Clock Skew..................................[ 0ps     ] 
    
    ******DRAM Performance Control******
    
    Performance Enhance .............................[Standard] 
    Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)....................[ Disabled ] 
    (G) MCH Frequency Latch.........................[ 400MHz   ] 
    System Memory Multipler.........................[ 2.00D    ] 
    Memory Frequency 1066...........................[ 1000     ] 
    DRAM Timing Selectable..........................[ Manual   ] 
    
    CAS Latency Time................................[ 5        ] 
    tRCD............................................[ 5        ] 
    tRP.............................................[ 5        ] 
    tRAS............................................[ 15       ] 
    
    ******Advanced Timing Control******
    
    tRRD............................................[ 4    ] Auto
    tWTR............................................[ 4     ] Auto
    tWR.............................................[ 8    ] Auto
    tRFC............................................[ 68       ] Auto
    tRTP............................................[ 4     ] Auto
    Command Rate (cmd)..............................[ 2T     ] 
    
    ******Channel A Timing Settings******     
    
    Static tRead Value        [ 11 ] ................[ 9        ] 
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto     ] 
    
    ******Channel A Driving Settings****** 
    
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto     ] 
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ]
    
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ]
    
    ******Channel B Timing Settings******     
    
    Static tRead Value        [ 11 ] ................[ 9        ] 
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment     [ 0 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    tRD 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ]
    tWR 2wr (Differnt Rank)   [ 6 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tWR 2rd (Differnt Rank)   [ 5 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    tRD 2wr (Same/Difft Rank) [ 8 ] ................[ Auto     ] 
    
    Dimm 1 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    Dimm 2 Clock Skew Control.......................[ Auto     ] 
    DDR Write Training..............................[ Auto     ] 
    
    ******Channel B Driving Settings****** 
    
    Drive Strength Profile..........................[ Auto     ] 
    Data Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Up Level......................[ Auto     ]
    clk Driving Pull Up Level.......................[ Auto     ]
    
    Data Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    cmd Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ] 
    ctrl Driving Pull Down Level....................[ Auto     ] 
    clk Driving Pull Down Level.....................[ Auto     ]
    
    ******Motherboard Voltage Control******
    
    Load-Line Calibration [Enabled] 
    CPU Vcore         [ 1.25 ]...................[ 1.42500  ] 
    CPU Termination   [ 1.20    ]...................[ 1.34     ]
    CPU PLL           [ 1.50    ]...................[ 1.61   ]
    CPU Reference     [ 0.760   ]...................[ 0.878   ] ET6 Show 0.815
    
    MCH Core          [1.1      ]...................[ 1.30    ] Tested 1.28-1.38
    MCH Reference     [0.760    ]...................[ 0.808   ] ET6 Show 0.72 Tested 0.74
    MCH/DRAM Refernce [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ] 
    ICH I/O           [1.500    ]...................[ 1.570   ] 
    ICH Core          [1.100    ]...................[ 1.200   ] 
    
    DRAM Voltage      [1.800    ]...................[ 2.140    ] Tested 2.1-2.18
    DRAM Termination  [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ] 
    Channel A Ref     [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ] 
    Channel B Ref     [0.900    ]...................[ Normal   ]  
    
    ******Advanced BIOS Features******
    
    Limit CPUID Max to 3............................[ Disabled ] 
    No-Execute memory Protect.......................[ Disabled ]  
    CPU Enhance Halt (CIE)..........................[ Disabled ]  
    C2/C2E State Support............................[ Disabled ]  
    C4/C4E State Support............................[ Disabled ] 
    CPU Thermal Monitor.............................[ Disabled ] 
    CPU EIST Function...............................[ Disabled ] 
    Virtualization Technology.......................[ Disabled ]
    I can run stable orthos or prime until the FFT`s 768 or 896 around 1h of test. When is in that zone the computer restart, but the curious is if i run just this FFT`s on custom test i pass without problem.

    Any suggestion to get stability beyond that?
    Last edited by bius; 03-24-2009 at 12:55 AM.
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    1x Seagate 1000GB (DATA)
    1x Samsung 750GB (DATA)
    MSI Geforce GTX 960 2GB
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    Seaconic Modular 620W
    Aerocool Dead Silence
    Windows 7 64bits

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    Default Re: UD3P+8500 Over 4.1ghz is it posbile?

    Try CPU Clock drive 800

    And try Less MCH Core (Still advising this) and more MCH Ref (like .74-.80)

    Have you used Driving strength profiles? 1066 should work good for that

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    Default Re: UD3P+8500 Over 4.1ghz is it posbile?

    Hi, i`m back with great results. Seems one of your advices was right and helped out to reach stability.


    Now i`m going to play with more fsb!!!
    Intel I5 4690K 4.2GHZ
    Gigabyte Z97MX Gaming 5
    2x8GB gSkill DDR3 1600Mhz
    1x SSD Sandisk Extreme II 240GB
    1x Seagate 1000GB (DATA)
    1x Samsung 750GB (DATA)
    MSI Geforce GTX 960 2GB
    Phanteks
    Seaconic Modular 620W
    Aerocool Dead Silence
    Windows 7 64bits

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    Default Re: UD3P+8500 Over 4.1ghz is it posbile?

    Nice to see you getting somewhere now!!!

    Which setting was it or what advice was it I gave that helped?

    Good luck on further tweaking! That is pretty high clocks for sure already though!

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