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    Question X58-Ud5, oc impossible - should I get a new PSU?

    Hi guys,

    I have serious problems overclocking the Gigabyte X58-UD5. I have tried all the different bios versions from F4 up to most actual beta but the problem persists.

    As soon as I go past 150Mhz bclk it does not cold boot anymore. It hangs in an infinite reboot loop with post code 88 or comes back telling me that the overcklock failed. The thing is that the whole setup is able to boot into windows at 4Ghz with 200Mhz bclk as long as I don't shut down the computer.

    From what I have read I'm not the only one with the cold boot issue when trying to overclock. Other than that the computer works fine with the stock setting but fails to resume after suspend (none of the bioses available helps).

    I assume that this is a problem with the psu being unable to deliver the needed juice when its started on cold boot or when resuming from supsend.

    So is there a GIGABYTE person out there hearing me? What do you think?
    Is this something I can expect to be solved with a future BIOS release or do I need another PSU? And if yes which one in the 1000W+ range is known to work with this board without issues?

    Cheers,
    Ruben

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    For referene these are my current components:
    MB: Gigabyte x58 ud5
    CPU: i7 920
    Mem: 6x 2GB Transcend 1333 (tried using 3 and only one module, problem persists)
    Psu: Silverstone Strider 1000W
    VGA: Tried 5 diffenrent vga cards including old PCI stuff so I don't think it matters to solve the problem...

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    Default Re: X58-Ud5, oc impossible - should I get a new PSU?

    i have the same board.
    my operating system will be here tommoro
    im running a coolmax 1200w after i ordered it i heard they where pron for failure,but sofar it is working great.

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    Default Re: X58-Ud5, oc impossible - should I get a new PSU?

    Ordered a Corsair HX-1000 today. I have hopes that it solves the problem - I've seen some positive reviews of the Gigabyte x58 boards and the reviewers were using this PSU.

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    Default Re: X58-Ud5, oc impossible - should I get a new PSU?

    I doubt the PSU was an issue here at all, I have used 550-750W PSU's on X58 with Crossfire and 5 HDD installed without issue.

    Mind sharing your settings you are trying that fail? >>

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    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
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    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. 
    Uncore Frequency .......................... 
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    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
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    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]
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    ##Channel C Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    
    
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    
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    Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................
    
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    Default Re: X58-Ud5, oc impossible - should I get a new PSU?

    All voltages set to 'normal' it refuses to power up overclocked beyond 150mhz bclk. It is definately no issue with my settings. Using the ET utility the setup is stable at 200x20 Mhz. I will post back later as soon as I tested the Corsair psu.

    Thanks for taking your time!

    Ruben

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    Default Re: X58-Ud5, oc impossible - should I get a new PSU?

    Normal should not be used when overclocking, and anything about stock settings may need more then stock voltage, so that is likely the issue.

    I do not advise you use "Normal" for any setting really, maybe QPI PLL, but that can be set to Auto or 1.1

    Ya let us know how you get along with your new PSU. If it helps great, but I don't think your issues solely lie on the old PSU at all

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    Default Re: X58-Ud5, oc impossible - should I get a new PSU?

    I prefer having control over the voltages instead of letting the auto settings decide. I did not mention everything, the vcore was fixed manually to something around 1.28V and Qpi to 1.2V. It's more than I need on my config for stable 3.2 Ghz using ET from inside Windows. Too bad that a cold boot fails even with this pretty mild settings.

    Whatever, the Corsair psu arrived and it works different but not really better:

    With 6Gb (3 modules) it boots fine with every baseclock between 133 and 210 Mhz (vcore = qpi voltage = something around 1.35V) so thats perfect and much better than the silverstone psu when using not more than 6Gb.

    Unfortunately I need 12Gb and with 6 modules installed I get a black hole from 151Mhz to 184Mhz baseclock where it's impossible to cold boot. Additionally the machine sometimes needs a few attemps to reach FF post code even on stock settings if the corsair psu was off for a few hours. So I will return the new psu. No real advantages over the old one, just different issues.

    Also tried an old seasonic 350W psu + a very old pci vga card. With this one I have no issues at all. Every clock setting cold boots fine at the first try but of course 350W is not enough to run the whole machine with four hdisks and multiple graphic cards.

    I think I need to give up the idea of overclocking in the traditional way using the bios settings and use a combination of manual bios settings and ET6 instead. At least this way I'm typing right now while load testing at 20x200Mhz and everything seems stable at pretty low voltages. Will leave it the way it is.

    Thanks for trying to help.

    Cheers,
    Ruben

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