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    Default Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    I recently ordered this ram, G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail. I'm wondering if there are any variables that need to be adjusted so that I can run this RAM, advanced tweaks or voltages, whatever it may be. Here's the computer I'm running, any help is much appreciated.

    GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 F13C Bios
    Intel c2q q6600 @ 3.3ghz (367 x 9)
    MSI Geforce 260 GTX
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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    My backup machine has a P35-DS3L so I can only give you some generalities.

    Manually set the primary memory timings to 5-5-5-15 (per spec).

    A 3.0 SPD multiplier will set your memory to 1101 (3x367). If your memory can't run at this speed, start with a CPU clock @ 355 and gradually work your way up.

    Memory voltage should probably be set at 2.1 volts (max spec rating).

    Before you install your new memory, go into the bios (M.I.T. section) and set the new DRAM volts. If your bios is like my DS3L, you'll need to set the voltage to +0.3 volts (1.8 + 0.3 = 2.1). You should also set the CPU clock speed to 355 or a bit higher if you're the cautious type.

    1) Exit the bios (F10 = save settings and exit).
    2) Turn your computer off and unplug the external power cord that goes to your psu.
    3) Install your new memory.
    4) Reconnect the power cord to your psu and turn your computer on.
    5) Pray

    You should run several passes of MemTest86+ to verify that your don't get any memory errors. Once your memory passes MemTest86+, run a stability test program in Windows for at least 4 - 6 hours. Longer is better. Prime95, OCCT, or Orthos are good programs. Check the BENCHMARKING sticky for links to download these programs.

    MCH voltage should probably be set to 1.2 volts minimum and possibly 1.22 - 1.26 volts.

    It shouldn't take too long for others to chime in and share their settings and suggestions.

    You can use the forum's advanced SEARCH function to find existing threads that deal with your memory & mobo.

    Let us know how you finally make out.
    Last edited by profJim; 03-23-2009 at 02:53 PM. Reason: additional info
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    Check out the Memory Timings sticky for in depth info on memory settings, tweaking and testing.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    Yes, you will need to adjust your Memory Multiplier so you can run 1066Mhz, and you would need to set your ram voltage and possibly/likely add some MCH Voltage

    I can give you some advised settings if you like, I need to know your full settings you are using now, or what speed you want to run your CPU then I can advise back >>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [8] 
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [450] 
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [100]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [2.00]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]
    
    Performance Enhance = [Standard]
    
    CAS Latency Time________________ ?
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ ?
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______?
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ ?
    
    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ ?
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ ?
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ ?
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ ?
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ ?
    Static tRead Value_______________
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]
    
    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]
    GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]
    
    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V] 
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V] 
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] 
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] 
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.25]
    
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    Thanks for the reply, here are my planned settings minus the ram divider because I am not sure which one I will have to use, but it will be whatever is below 1066 mhz so I can keep it stable.

    Code:
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    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [367]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [Unsure]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

    Performance Enhance = [Standard]

    CAS Latency Time________________ [5]
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ [5]
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______[5]
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ [15]

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ [Auto]
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ [Auto]
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ [Auto]
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ [Auto]
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ [Auto]
    Static tRead Value_______________ [Auto]
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto]

    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] or [+0.2V]
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] or [+0.2V]
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.39750]

    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect___________________[Enabled]

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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    Well you will need a higher FSB to run faster or up to 1066. At that FSB I would only advise Memory Multiplier 2.40B for 880Mhz, or you could try 2.66D for 975Mhz. The later may need some adjustments to MCH and or Static tRead different then Suggested below >>>

    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [367]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto] << SET 100
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [Unsure] << See above note (2.40B or 2.66D)
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

    Performance Enhance = [Standard]

    CAS Latency Time________________ [5]
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ [5]
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______[5]
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ [15]

    ^^ you may be able to use 444-15 or 544-12/15 since you are underclocking the ram ^^

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ [Auto] << 3-4
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ [Auto] << 3-5
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ [Auto] << 4-6
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ [Auto] << 52-62
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ [Auto] << 3-5
    Static tRead Value_______________ [Auto] 6-10
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto] << Always Auto

    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] or [+0.2V] << +0.1 would be plenty
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] or [+0.2V] << +0.2 or 0.25-0.3 may be needed
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.39750] << you sure you need this for only 3.3Ghz? Just checking

    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled] << Enable

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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Well you will need a higher FSB to run faster or up to 1066. At that FSB I would only advise Memory Multiplier 2.40B for 880Mhz, or you could try 2.66D for 975Mhz. The later may need some adjustments to MCH and or Static tRead different then Suggested below >>>

    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [367]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [Auto] << SET 100
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [Unsure] << See above note (2.40B or 2.66D)
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

    Performance Enhance = [Standard]

    CAS Latency Time________________ [5]
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_________ [5]
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay_______[5]
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)__________ [15]

    ^^ you may be able to use 444-15 or 544-12/15 since you are underclocking the ram ^^

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_________ [Auto] << 3-4
    Rank Write to READ Delay________ [Auto] << 3-5
    Write to Precharge Delay_________ [Auto] << 4-6
    Refresh to ACT Delay______________ [Auto] << 52-62
    Read to Precharge Delay__________ [Auto] << 3-5
    Static tRead Value_______________ [Auto] 6-10
    Static tRead Phase Adjust________ [Auto] << Always Auto

    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [+0.1V]
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [+0.1V] or [+0.2V] << +0.1 would be plenty
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [+0.1V] or [+0.2V] << +0.2 or 0.25-0.3 may be needed
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.39750] << you sure you need this for only 3.3Ghz? Just checking

    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Disabled] << Enable
    Thanks for the reply, is 2.40B for 880Mhz easier on the memory controller than 2.66D? Optimally I would like to run 2.66D for the higher memory FSB but I want it to be stable rather than faster. What (G)MCH OverVoltage Control and Static tRead Value out of 6-10 would you reccomend for running the 2.66D? As far the as the CPU vcore is concerned, the drop is to about 1.44 and the droop is to about 1.2816, but miraculously is 100% stable doing small FFT's in prime for over 12 Hrs.

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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    Got the ram in, got a bluescreen IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL right away with MCH +0.1V, bumped up to +.2V and no bluescreen yet

    Edit: I spoke too soon, bluescreen with +.2V MCH, bumped to max at +.3V
    Last edited by thejsm; 03-25-2009 at 11:39 AM.

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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    2.66D is likely easier on the controller since that is within the FSB range for that strap

    MCH maybe +2, if that does not work then use +2.5 if you have it, if not +.3 (Sorry, I reply as I read, I see you bumped it already)

    Static tRead you may be able to use 6 on that board, depends on voltages set. Just try lower until it fails then go back up one

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    Default Re: Question about running GA-P35-DS3R v1.0 with G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK

    I cannot get this memory to run stable, I keep getting IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL BSOD. :( I'm not really sure where to go from here.

    I've run windows memory diagnostics and I receive no errors on the memory but still gives that random BSOD message.
    Last edited by thejsm; 03-26-2009 at 08:02 PM.

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